Rall Wraps Around

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One columnist who’s always willing to take his overheated far left rants further than anyone else is Ted Rall, and now he’s taken it so far that he’s wrapped around and joined the far right: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign.

Obama is useless. Worse than that, he’s dangerous. Which is why, if he has any patriotism left after the thousands of meetings he has sat through with corporate contributors, blood-sucking lobbyists and corrupt politicians, he ought to step down now — before he drags us further into the abyss.

(Hat tip: JammieWearingFool.)

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426 comments
1 vxbush  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:43:29am

Mmmmm……okay.

[shakes head]

2 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:44:08am

You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

3 itellu3times  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:44:31am

The devil breaks his tools when he is through with them.

4 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:45:01am

I can’t believe newspapers post his loony screeds. They guy is a kook.

5 vxbush  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:45:29am
Reports in U.S. state-controlled media …

I think he needs to step away from the caffeine. Or whatever else he is swigging when he writes these.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:45:45am

Well, all right. The First Amendment at work.

7 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:46:51am

re: #5 vxbush

I think he needs to step away from the caffeine. Or whatever else he is swigging when he writes these.

His nasty petty spirit has rotted his brain.

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:46:58am

His cartoon work has shown support for the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and suggested that the U.S. might give Iraqi land to Israeli ‘settlers’. This is nothing much.

9 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:47:28am

can’t say I disagree with the Tedster on this one

10 VegasRick  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:47:35am

“Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him. Unlike the Republicans who backed George W. Bush, I won’t follow a terrible leader just because I voted for him. Obama has revealed himself. He is a monster, and he should remove himself from power.”

Ted is SHOCKED at what ozero is doing!
*jerkoff

11 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:48:12am

Rall got fired a while back and is now mad at Obama because Obama won’t pay Rall’s mortgage and car payments. It’s the rant of a spurned lover.

12 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:48:13am

So the left eat their young also?

13 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:48:37am

re: #10 VegasRick

“Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him. Unlike the Republicans who backed George W. Bush, I won’t follow a terrible leader just because I voted for him. Obama has revealed himself. He is a monster, and he should remove himself from power.”

Ted is SHOCKED at what ozero is doing!
*jerkoff

“my that sun is bright!”

14 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:48:42am

LOL… all the moonbats are coming out of the woodwork to gripe….now Nader says They Tried To Buy Him…
[Link: www.newser.com…]

15 Dr. Shalit  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:48:54am

To Ted Rall -

“…And you expected, sir…?”

-S-

16 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:49:36am

re: #15 Dr. Shalit

To Ted Rall -

“…And you expected, sir…?”

-S-

Lenin

17 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:50:20am

re: #16 Nevergiveup

He expected Abbie Hoffman.

18 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:50:24am

Thanks for the HT, Charles.

Not sure if Rall thought this one through. Does he really want Biden as POTUS?

19 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:50:28am
MIAMI — We expected broken promises. But the gap between the soaring expectations that accompanied Barack Obama’s inauguration and his wretched performance is the broadest such chasm in recent historical memory. This guy makes Bill Clinton look like a paragon of integrity and follow-through.

From health care to torture to the economy to war, Obama has reneged on pledges real and implied. So timid and so owned is he that he trembles in fear of offending, of all things, the government of Turkey. Obama has officially reneged on his campaign promise to acknowledge the Armenian genocide. When a president doesn’t have the nerve to annoy the Turks, why does he bother to show up for work in the morning?

Rall was so obviously expecting, against all the evidence so painstakingly excavated about the man, a Messiah and instead got true-to-type a Chicago politician. Having one’s unrealistic expectations dashed against the rock of reality is going to be hard to accept.

20 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:50:36am

Ted, Just Admit It.

Youtube Video
21 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:50:37am

re: #17 tradewind

He expected Abbie Hoffman.

OK, I like yours better.

22 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:51:23am

re: #9 albusteve

can’t say I disagree with the Tedster on this one


You have to be kidding me! I disagree with Charles’ assertion that Rall - scumbag that he’s always been - should join the Far Right, as I haven’t seen anyone on the Far Right calling for Obama to resign, but that little picky bit apart I think Charles is right: Rall is off his rocker to call for Obama to resign - what, does Rall think the country and the economy will be better off under Biden or does he just want a “do-over” of the 2008 elections?
Wonder who Rall supported during the Dem Primaries and in the General election?

23 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:51:40am

re: #5 vxbush

I think he needs to step away from the caffeine. Or whatever else he is swigging when he writes these.

He injests his own hatred and bile on a constant basis.

24 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:52:26am

re: #18 JammieWearingFool ROTFL! GMTA (see my #22!).

25 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:52:40am
Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him. Unlike the Republicans who backed George W. Bush, I won’t follow a terrible leader just because I voted for him. Obama has revealed himself. He is a monster, and he should remove himself from power.

That’s a meltdown.

26 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:53:02am

So - who here disagrees with Crazy Ted?

Start with me: I do.

27 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:53:25am

re: #22 realwest

MarxLeninStalinMao.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:53:46am

re: #12 Nevergiveup

So the left eat their young also?

Longtime specialty.

29 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:53:54am

GRADY, Ark. — Arkansas authorities are looking for two convicted murderers who escaped from a prison in Grady.

Corrections department spokeswoman Dina Tyler says the men escaped from the Cummins Unit Friday evening. They drove away in a maroon or burgundy colored, 4-door sedan that was left for them. Both were wearing corrections officer uniforms, which are made at the prison.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Arkansas, Hum? Who used be the Gov. down there?

30 Dr. Shalit  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:23am

re: #22 realwest

realwest -

This is Politics. As Ayatollah Khomeni said about Humor and Islam - there ARE NO DO-OVERS.

-S-

31 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:24am

re: #26 Cato the Elder

So - who here disagrees with Crazy Ted?

Start with me: I do.

What part of his screed are you having disagreement with?

32 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:35am

re: #26 Cato the Elder

So - who here disagrees with Crazy Ted?

Start with me: I do.

Me too. I would file this article under “hysterical NWO paranoia”.

33 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:44am

“Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him.”

Narcissists have a way of recognizing one of their kind.

34 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:47am

re: #14 tradewind Ah, respectfully, that was about the 2004 election, not that I think it was true then, either.
I’d love a steel cage match among Paul, Rall and Nader - with Biden doing the “play-by play”! LOL!

35 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:48am

Obama is apparently not far left enough for him. He seems pissed about the lost “rights” for the terrorists.

36 KenJen  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:54:50am

I bet Rall gets audited this year./

37 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:56:04am

re: #26 Cato the Elder
OK Cato, I’ll be second (or wherever this fast moving thread puts me!).

38 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:04am

re: #30 Dr. Shalit
So you’re saying Rall wants BIDEN to be POTUS?!?

39 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:24am

re: #25 Jimmah

That’s a meltdown.

Has he stomped his widdle foot?

40 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:38am

re: #36 KenJen

I bet Rall gets audited this year./

Fairness doctrine applied…. a Corkum & Fox panel get inserted between every one of Rall’s panels.

41 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:43am

re: #22 realwest

You have to be kidding me! I disagree with Charles’ assertion that Rall - scumbag that he’s always been - should join the Far Right, as I haven’t seen anyone on the Far Right calling for Obama to resign, but that little picky bit apart I think Charles is right: Rall is off his rocker to call for Obama to resign - what, does Rall think the country and the economy will be better off under Biden or does he just want a “do-over” of the 2008 elections?
Wonder who Rall supported during the Dem Primaries and in the General election?

I should have cherry picked it…I do not see Biden as an alternative and I don’t want to see a resignation…but BO is off his rocker just like Rall himself…I wonder where he’d be without the internet

42 pat  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:49am

Rall has thrived because of employment by those very same corporations. BTW, he is the creepiest cartoonist in the world. Racism and stereotypes permeate his drawings. They are a window into a diseased mind.

43 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:57:49am

re: #29 Nevergiveup
Hmmmm lemme see here …….Clinton?…….Huckabee?!

44 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:58:05am

re: #39 MandyManners

Has he stomped his widdle foot?

He’s laying on the floor holding his breath and flailing away….

45 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:58:10am

re: #34 realwest

Yeah, I know.
I just think it’s funny that they all have to bellyache now that they have what they said they wanted.
It’s useless, though…. BHO learned triangulation by watching # 42, or at least his staff did…. you can tell.

46 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:58:49am

re: #32 Jimmah
What is “NWO”?

47 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:58:55am

re: #42 pat

Rall has thrived because of employment by those very same corporations. BTW, he is the creepiest cartoonist in the world. Racism and stereotypes permeate his drawings. They are a window into a diseased mind.

NY Nana posted a link to his beyond-hateful crap about Tillman this morning.

48 Seagreenroom  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:59:04am

I like this guy!

49 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:59:09am

re: #39 MandyManners

His Birks aren’t made for foot-stompin’.

50 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:59:36am

He forgot to insert the part where he says he usually gets kissed before he gets f*cked.

51 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:59:39am

re: #33 rightymouse
Hey, hi ya righty! Spot on comment!

52 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:59:48am

re: #45 tradewind

Yeah, I know.
I just think it’s funny that they all have to bellyache now that they have what they said they wanted.
It’s useless, though…. BHO learned triangulation by watching # 42, or at least his staff did…. you can tell.

Do remember that a lot of Obama’s staff are Clinton retreads, so he is just gaining the expertise of people who honed the process from 8 years of experience.

53 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:00:01am

re: #44 jcm

He’s laying on the floor holding his breath and flailing away….

Is he blue yet? Throw a pitcher of cold water in his face—that’ll stop a hissy fit.

54 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:00:31am

re: #30 Dr. Shalit

Well,,,, except for Nixon.
He got one.

55 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:00:33am

re: #46 realwest

What is “NWO”?

National Wrestling Organisation!

56 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:00:37am

re: #48 Seagreenroom

I like this guy!

Do you know one single fucking thing about him?

57 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:00:49am

re: #53 MandyManners

Is he blue yet? Throw a pitcher of cold water in his face—that’ll stop a hissy fit.

waterboard him?

58 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:01:16am

re: #53 MandyManners

Is he blue yet? Throw a pitcher of cold water in his face—that’ll stop a hissy fit.

TOTURE! Waterboarding!

59 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:01:17am

I’m about to pitch my own hissy fit. bbiab

60 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:01:25am

re: #42 pat

Rall has thrived because of employment by those very same corporations. BTW, he is the creepiest cartoonist in the world. Racism and stereotypes permeate his drawings. They are a window into a diseased mind.

Sounds like an American Steve Bell

61 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:01am

re: #55 Truck Monkey
Ah! Heh! Thanks.

62 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:07am

re: #48 Seagreenroom

I like this guy!

Say that again…..

63 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:09am

re: #51 realwest

Hey, hi ya righty! Spot on comment!

Hiya real! Hope all is well with you!

64 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:11am

re: #48 Seagreenroom

I like this guy!

Rall is a heartless wretch…a first class, five star asshole

65 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:17am

re: #22 realwest

You have to be kidding me! I disagree with Charles’ assertion that Rall - scumbag that he’s always been - should join the Far Right, as I haven’t seen anyone on the Far Right calling for Obama to resign, but that little picky bit apart I think Charles is right: Rall is off his rocker to call for Obama to resign - what, does Rall think the country and the economy will be better off under Biden or does he just want a “do-over” of the 2008 elections?
Wonder who Rall supported during the Dem Primaries and in the General election?

Do the nirthers count as far right? They don’t want him to resign, they just want him escorted out of the building.

Meanwhile, much of the far left is having a snit-fit. More of them supported Obama than have supported a Democrat in a long time. They were expecting something very dramatic and revolutionary, and they’re not getting it. Washington remains Washington.

66 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:31am

re: #53 MandyManners

Is he blue yet? Throw a pitcher of cold water in his face—that’ll stop a hissy fit.

Throwing water on Rall would make him melt, and the resultant polluted runoff would be highly toxic.

67 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:02:50am

re: #46 realwest

What is “NWO”?

New World Order

68 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:03:01am

re: #53 MandyManners

Is he blue yet? Throw a pitcher of cold water in his face—that’ll stop a hissy fit.

Better yet. Put him on a board with his feet elevated above the level of his head. Put a wet towel over his face. Apply picture of water. Rinse and repeat.

69 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:03:20am

re: #26 Cato the Elder

So - who here disagrees with Crazy Ted?

Start with me: I do.

I disagree with Ted Rall on most matters, up to and including the direction the sun comes up in the morning.

70 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:04:04am

re: #29 Nevergiveup

GRADY, Ark. — Arkansas authorities are looking for two convicted murderers who escaped from a prison in Grady.

Corrections department spokeswoman Dina Tyler says the men escaped from the Cummins Unit Friday evening. They drove away in a maroon or burgundy colored, 4-door sedan that was left for them. Both were wearing corrections officer uniforms, which are made at the prison.

[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Arkansas, Hum? Who used be the Gov. down there?

You’re blaming a jailbreak on him?

71 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:04:23am

re: #48 Seagreenroom
You either don’t know who he is or you must be just as certifiable as he is. Ted Rall has done some of the most VILE and HATEFUL political cartoons one could find if you looked for 10 years.
And that’d be with great expertise in internet searching too.

72 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:04:55am

re: #53 MandyManners

Throwing a pitcher of cold water on things is a wonder cure. It sure worked on the neighbors’ two poodles…

73 Red Pencil  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:02am

Hmm, I should be nicer to Obama. Anyone who offends Ted Rall can’t be ALL bad.

Nevermind his numerous political sins, I loathe Rall for his artwork and his complete incomprehension of what humor is supposed to be. Rall actually has had the nerve to completely dump on and dismiss Art Spiegelman as an artist vastly inferior to himself, claiming Spiegelman’s position at the New Yorker was due to his influential wife.

Now I don’t always agree with Spiegelman but dammit the man is usually funny, and, unlike Rall, can actually DRAW. The incredible sour grapes Rall displays in dissing a superior artist give some clue as to his mental issues.

74 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:08am

I don’t totally disagree with Rall, I agree with the following:

Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him.

The rest is pure unadulterated Rall partisan crap.

75 itellu3times  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:11am

re: #69 SanFranciscoZionist

I disagree with Ted Rall on most matters, up to and including the direction the sun comes up in the morning.

You don’t agree that the sun rises from Ted Rall’s ass?

76 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:26am

re: #67 Jimmah
Ah, well I guess that makes more sense than Nation Wrestling Organization! LOL!

77 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:37am

re: #43 realwest

Hmmmm lemme see here …….Clinton?…….Huckabee?!

Hellav a grouping ha?

78 alexknyc  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:05:57am

re: #29 Nevergiveup

Corrections department spokeswoman Dina Tyler says the men escaped from the Cummins Unit Friday evening. They drove away in a maroon or burgundy colored, 4-door sedan that was left for them. Both were wearing corrections officer uniforms, which are made at the prison.

They make the guards uniforms at the prison?

What could possibly go wrong with that?

79 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:06:05am

New World Order frootcakes are always screaming about our personal freedoms being snatched away by the evil authorities under the auspices of crime or terrorism laws. And “Obama is the same as/worse than Bush” is becoming their principle slogans these days.

80 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:06:09am

re: #48 Seagreenroom

I like this guy!

Rall is a despicable person. Just because he’s calling for Obama to resign doesn’t make him less despicable.

81 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:06:13am

re: #71 realwest

You either don’t know who he is or you must be just as certifiable as he is. Ted Rall has done some of the most VILE and HATEFUL political cartoons one could find if you looked for 10 years.
And that’d be with great expertise in internet searching too.

Read what that nic wrote in the previous thread about beheading and crucifying.

82 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:06:16am

re: #75 itellu3times

You don’t agree that the sun rises from Ted Rall’s ass?

That ain’t the sun, kiddo.

83 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:06:19am

re: #70 SanFranciscoZionist

You’re blaming a jailbreak on him?

Hadn’t thought that far ahead?

84 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:07:04am

re: #78 alexknyc

Armani they ain’t.

85 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:07:07am

re: #77 Nevergiveup

Hellav a grouping ha?

They’re both well-spoken, and make personal connections easily—I can see certain similarities between them.

86 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:08:11am

re: #53 MandyManners

Is he blue yet?


Nope.. total pinko.

87 AuntAcid  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:08:34am

Jihad conference nixed in Nashville.

[Link: www.tennessean.com…]

88 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:08:46am

re: #62 jcm
Hey jcm, that’s truly MILD compared to other Rall cartoons, vile though it is.
Fuck Ted Rall and the horse he rode in on.

89 Ojoe  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:09:15am

If the senate and the house resign with him, I’m on board.

90 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:09:16am

re: #81 MandyManners

Read what that nic wrote in the previous thread about beheading and crucifying.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

91 Lynn B.  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:09:43am

re: #74 FurryOldGuyJeans

Actually, I also agree with his sentiment about the Armenian genocide (though not with the way he put it … “annoying the Turks” isn’t quite the trifling matter he seems to think it is). But

I refer here to Obama’s plan for “preventive detentions.” If a cop or other government official thinks you might want to commit a crime someday, you could be held in “prolonged detention.” Reports in U.S. state-controlled media imply that Obama’s shocking new policy would only apply to Islamic terrorists (or, in this case, wannabe Islamic terrorists, and also kinda-sorta-maybe-thinking-about-terrorism dudes). As if that made it OK.

In practice, Obama wants to let government goons snatch you, me and anyone else they deem annoying off the street.

If Rall truly doesn’t understand the difference between preventative detentions for terrorists caught overseas committing or trying to commit acts of war against the United States and snatching US citizens off the street for being “annoying,” he has more than a few screws loose.

92 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:10:03am

re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist
No Nirthers don’t count as Far Right or Far Left, they count as LOONEY. Period. Ya know, sorta like the Kos kids.

93 FabioC.  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:11:14am

For Ted Rall, Obama is not marxist enough and not quick enough with full-blown nationalizations, that’s the difference.

94 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:11:39am

re: #92 realwest

No Nirthers don’t count as Far Right or Far Left, they count as LOONEY. Period. Ya know, sorta like the Kos kids.

Hey, if I can say the Kos Kids aren’t lefties, it’s a deal!

/nice bourgeois liberal here, in the land of the crazy people

95 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:12:06am

A 4 year old has greater artistic skills than Rall, my cat is a better critical thinker than Rall. The man is a virus.

96 tradewind  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:12:09am

re: #87 AuntAcid

The headline is a little misleading: The conference was an anti-jihad type event and the hotel manager, a muslim who has been active in Nashville CAIR type politics, was the individual who canceled it, not any citizens’ group…
If you read the comments, the people are p**sed.

97 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:12:41am

re: #81 MandyManners
Hi Mandy! Do I have to?

98 lostlakehiker  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:12:48am

I had come to the conclusion that Ted Rall was paranoid about Republicans. I see I was mistaken.

I should have concluded that Ted Rall was paranoid about Republicans.

99 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:13:12am

re: #87 AuntAcid

Jihad conference nixed in Nashville.

[Link: www.tennessean.com…]

Yeah, it looks like the Hotel manager is an immigration right’s activist and took offense to Geert’s wanting to outlaw religions. Can’t say I blame him but I’m not sure if it’s legal for him to cancel their reservation.

100 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:13:53am

Rallian?

New term for hyperleftist who hate Obama as much as Bush.

101 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:14:24am

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the Hotel manager is an immigration right’s activist and took offense to Geert’s wanting to outlaw religions. Can’t say I blame him but I’m not sure if it’s legal for him to cancel their reservation.

I suppose he’ll find out. Can’t say I blame him either.

102 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:15:28am

All aboard!


Youtube Video
103 Truck Monkey  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:15:50am

re: #100 BigPapa

Rallian?

New term for hyperleftist who hate Obama as much as Bush.

Sounds Star Trekkian. The disappointment just oozes out of his keyboard doesn’t it?

104 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:15:52am

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the Hotel manager is an immigration right’s activist and took offense to Geert’s wanting to outlaw religions. Can’t say I blame him but I’m not sure if it’s legal for him to cancel their reservation.

he’s one man…people deserve to be heard regardless, even Geert

105 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:15:57am

re: #102 MandyManners

I’ll wait for the next one.

106 KenJen  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:16:05am

re: #102 MandyManners

All aboard!

Youtube Video


Rall aboard!

107 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:16:23am

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the Hotel manager is an immigration right’s activist and took offense to Geert’s wanting to outlaw religions. Can’t say I blame him but I’m not sure if it’s legal for him to cancel their reservation.

Doesn’t a hotel have the right to refuse service?

108 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:16:59am

re: #100 BigPapa

Rallian?

New term for hyperleftist who hate Obama as much as Bush.

DeRalled?

109 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:17:03am

re: #90 MandyManners
Oh good Lord. That’s just revolting. And IMHO doesn’t belong on LGF!

110 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:17:28am

re: #109 realwest

Oh good Lord. That’s just revolting. And IMHO doesn’t belong on LGF!

Didja’ ding it down?

111 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:18:59am

The beasties are up and hungry again. bbiab

112 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:19:13am

re: #107 MandyManners

Doesn’t a hotel have the right to refuse service?

There are some limits. You can’t legally refuse a hotel room to a man because he’s black. I think you CAN, however, refuse to lease your hotel to a Nation of Islam conference on the grounds that it will hurt your business or community standing, which is what this guy seems to be doing. I think he could realistically say he doesn’t want the security risk.

113 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:19:50am

I know this is OT, and its not even 150 responses yet (maybe the rant the post is about counts?)

Anyway, recently Charles linked to a story of a “anti-jihad” demo in Luton that ended up in riots. It seems that we now know who was behind it, a Dave Smeeton, a man who just happens to be an old acquaintance of Paul ‘Lionheart’ Ray.

Here is a Daily Mail article on the matter:

Shortly before the Islamic Centre, which houses a mosque and school, was set alight, staff received a string of threatening anonymous letters. One warned: ‘We know who you are … we have plenty of pictures of you … we are watching you … we will certainly have you for what you did this week’ [a reference to the homecoming parade].

A second was littered with references to the crusades, including the name of Reynold de Chatillon, whose brutality towards Muslims in the holy land was infamous.

‘Saladdin once preached Jihad against the Christian kingdom, so now we preach our Jihad against Islam!’, ranted the letter, which described Muslims as ‘parasites’ and ‘Allah’s vomit’.
Scenes of violence in the centre of Luton

Scenes of violence in the centre of Luton

A similar coat of arms and Crusader imagery is featured in a notorious anti-Islamic website penned by someone calling himself Lionheart.

Lionheart, we discovered, is Paul Ray, 32. Ray used to run a computer repair shop in nearby Dunstable, but is now unemployed. Last year, he was arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred and is still on bail.

Asked if he sent the poisonous letter to the Islamic Centre weeks before it was torched, Ray replied: ‘This is the first I’ve heard about the letter. The Muslims must be trying to pin the firebombing on me.’

Guess which organisation Paul Ray belongs to? Yes, that’s right, March for England. He took part in Sunday’s demonstration, but says he was not involved in any of the trouble. Ray calls Smeeton a ‘very good friend.’

And on a more positive note:

The Muslim community turned on extremists in their midst yesterday, telling them they were ‘sick and tired’ of their behaviour.

The angry confrontation came in Luton, where anti-Islamist protesters brandished England flags last Sunday, before clashing with police.

The latest violence erupted as arguments raged between fellow Muslims shortly after Friday morning prayers in the Bury Park area of the town.

Muslim groups clash in Luton

Heated: The two groups clash after members of the Luton Muslim community decided to move a group of extremists on, with officers struggling to hold them back

Passing traffic ground to a halt as the large group of moderates confronted about a dozen extremists.

As the radical Muslims began to set up their stall, they were surrounded by a crowd shouting ‘we don’t want you here’ and ‘move on, move on’. Angry words were exchanged and scuffles broke out between members of both groups, with the extremists shouting ‘Shame on you’ and ‘Get back to your synagogue’.

The moderates chanted ‘Out, Out, Out’, and after an uneasy stand-off, police officers were able to persuade the extremist group to leave the area.


Apologies for the OT, but I thought it would be of interest.

114 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:19:55am

re: #110 MandyManners
Of course on this and on the prior thread and reported the comment on the prior thread to Charles, for what good it’ll do.

115 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:20:00am

My Moonbat Brother™ - a huge Obama fan - used to defend Rall’s stinking anti-Bush ‘toons and screeds. To the max. If I hadn’t sworn off talking politics with him for the sake of my sanity I’d send him this and ask him what he thinks of Ted now.

This is so hard not to do.

But. Sanity. Important.

116 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:20:41am

re: #103 Truck Monkey

Paulians, Rallians, Romulins….

Many simularities, I might say. Altough, I haven’t read any Romulin screeds lately. How do they feel about Obama and his first 100 days?

117 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:22:09am

re: #115 Cato the Elder
Well send it to him anyway - YOUR sanity is worth it!

118 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:22:44am

The President is bound to offend some people, all of the time.

119 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:23:32am

re: #107 MandyManners

Probably.

120 KenJen  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:24:02am

re: #116 BigPapa

Paulians, Rallians, Romulins….

Many simularities, I might say. Altough, I haven’t read any Romulin screeds lately. How do they feel about Obama and his first 100 days?

Funny. None of the libs I know have brought up his name. Seriously. They steer clear of any topic that may bring up politics.

121 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:25:08am

re: #113 HAL2010

Very interesting.

122 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:26:06am

re: #10 VegasRick

“Obama is cute. He is charming. But there is something rotten inside him. Unlike the Republicans who backed George W. Bush, I won’t follow a terrible leader just because I voted for him. Obama has revealed himself. He is a monster, and he should remove himself from power.”

Ted is SHOCKED at what ozero is doing!
*jerkoff

No. As I’ve pointed out before, Ted Rall is the monster.

123 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:27:00am

re: #122 The Other Les

No. As I’ve pointed out before, Ted Rall is the monster.

Ted just didn’t want Bush winning that 3rd term.

124 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:28:03am

re: #116 BigPapa

Romulans are definitely not liberal. The entire Beta Quadrant voted for McKain.

125 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:28:30am

I hacked Rall’s webcam and record this…….

Liveleak Video
126 JohnH  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:28:52am

I was listening to the left-wing talk station on Sirius in my rental car Thursday. The talk-show host, I think it was Lynn Samuels, was railing against Obama just like Ted Rall was, claiming he was spending us into oblivion and destroying the country. She was so negative that I had to check and make sure the station was the left-wing talk one. It was.

127 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:28:55am

re: #121 Killgore Trout

I think so. I even have an article about evolution ready to post when the next thread pops up. One must be prepared for all eventualities.

128 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:29:03am

re: #48 Seagreenroom

What’s your deal?

129 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:29:16am

re: #118 alegrias
Yes, that is undoubtedly true. But that also means you think Rall qualifies as a “People” or “Person” while I tend to think of him as a cross wired, fried to the gills LUNATIC.

130 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:29:41am

re: #73 Red Pencil

Hmm, I should be nicer to Obama. Anyone who offends Ted Rall can’t be ALL bad.

Nevermind his numerous political sins, I loathe Rall for his artwork and his complete incomprehension of what humor is supposed to be. Rall actually has had the nerve to completely dump on and dismiss Art Spiegelman as an artist vastly inferior to himself, claiming Spiegelman’s position at the New Yorker was due to his influential wife.

Now I don’t always agree with Spiegelman but dammit the man is usually funny, and, unlike Rall, can actually DRAW. The incredible sour grapes Rall displays in dissing a superior artist give some clue as to his mental issues.

i had no idea about Rall until this post—and I LOVE spiegelman as an artist, adore Maus, and will fight with anyone anytime about the status of Maus as literature. Just reread Maus and its sequel this week, as it happens.

in re: the topic, Rall is looking like a total idiot.

131 Cato the Elder  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:29:56am

re: #117 realwest

Well send it to him anyway - YOUR sanity is worth it!

Maybe under a different name, with a different addy. I don’t want the thirty-five-part email “debate” that would ensue, ending as always with him spluttering that I’m a “douchebag”. If I refuse to debate, I’ll still get the thirty-five emails accusing me of not daring to debate, ending with me being a douchebag. Believe me, I’ve been down that path enough to know where it leads.

So maybe pseudonymously. Trouble is, he’d still know it was me.

Sigh. Family peace is worth forgoing a bit of needling.

132 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:31:34am

re: #127 HAL2010

It’s also interesting to see that Glen Jenvey was also involved in the Luton scene. He’s been cooking up fake stories about Muslims for quite some time.

133 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:31:40am

re: #125 jcm

The best part is that the window is on the 17th floor.

134 Racer X  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:31:48am

re: #115 Cato the Elder


But. Sanity. Important.

Sanity is overrated.

135 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:32:00am

re: #125 jcm
ROTFLMAO! Geebus - how the hell did you find that?
Wait, on second thought, I really don’t want to know!

136 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:32:24am

re: #134 Racer X

Sanity is overrated.

The medical and retirement plans stink.

137 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:32:42am

re: #64 albusteve

Rall is a heartless wretch…a first class, five star asshole

I once asked a leftist what it was like to be a soulless monster.

Seriously, one had to completely obliterate every last remaining shred of conscience in order to continue to scream for a system that deliberately unleashes deadly force against innocent people and has run up a body count of over a hundred million.

138 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:34:30am

re: #134 Racer X

Sanity is overrated.

But going crazy is not all it’s cracked up to be either.

139 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:35:07am

re: #71 realwest

You either don’t know who he is or you must be just as certifiable as he is. Ted Rall has done some of the most VILE and HATEFUL political cartoons one could find if you looked for 10 years.
And that’d be with great expertise in internet searching too.

The Allied Powers used to hang people at Nuremberg for the kind of stuff that Ted Rall is doing.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

140 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:35:48am

re: #132 Killgore Trout

It’s also interesting to see that Glen Jenvey was also involved in the Luton scene. He’s been cooking up fake stories about Muslims for quite some time.

Was unaware of that, incredible.

141 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:36:01am
In practice, Obama wants to let government goons snatch you, me and anyone else they deem annoying off the street.

Snatching you, Ted, would be a good start.
//

Ted Rall is a columnist communist for Universal Press Syndicate.

142 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:36:25am

Love it, love it, love it, love it, Love it, love it, love it, love it, Love it, love it, love it, love it, Love it, love it, love it, love it, Love it, love it, love it, love it… inlefticide.

143 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:36:29am

re: #125 jcm

See what happens when you don’t give attention to your pets? Let this be a lesson to ya! Woof!

144 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:38:18am

re: #141 solomonpanting

Snatching you, Ted, would be a good start.
//

Ted Rall is a columnist communist for Universal Press Syndicate.

Who is John Galt?

145 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:38:21am

re: #22 realwest

You have to be kidding me! I disagree with Charles’ assertion that Rall - scumbag that he’s always been - should join the Far Right, as I haven’t seen anyone on the Far Right calling for Obama to resign, but that little picky bit apart I think Charles is right: Rall is off his rocker to call for Obama to resign - what, does Rall think the country and the economy will be better off under Biden or does he just want a “do-over” of the 2008 elections?
Wonder who Rall supported during the Dem Primaries and in the General election?

Calling on Obama to resign is just like the Nirther movement— what the hell? They’re crazies making a lunatic demand and dreaming of deposing obama.

In reality, even if they got their fondest wish (deposing Obama)— What the hell? So BIDEN will be POTUS? WTF are these people even thinking?

Just insanity.

146 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:39:27am

re: #139 The Other Les

The Allied Powers used to hang people at Nuremberg for the kind of stuff that Ted Rall is doing.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Rall doesn’t have Streicher’s influence. Thank the good Lord.

147 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:39:32am

re: #144 shiek al beif salami

Who is John Galt?

I have tried on several occasions to find out, but always failed. Have you seen the size of the Atlas Shrugs?

148 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:39:45am

2008-2008: Bushitler, Shrub
2009- : Obamanation, Obambi

149 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:40:58am

re: #147 HAL2010

I have tried on several occasions to find out, but always failed. Have you seen the size of the Atlas Shrugs?

The character or the meaning of the character?

150 FightingBack  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:06am

The NYT buries stuff? Oh noes…..

in a boring little sentence buried a couple of paragraphs past the jump and a couple of hundred words down page A16…
151 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:12am

re: #147 HAL2010

I have tried on several occasions to find out, but always failed. Have you seen the size of the Atlas Shrugs?

Shrugged.

152 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:13am

In response to one of Rall’s previous mouth droppings I wrote:

Let’s see…if we on the Right were to treat the Left the way that Great Comrade Stalin treated anyone he suspected of being an opponent, let alone someone who was an actual opponent, would Comrade Rall still be breathing, let alone continuing to rant like a mentally disconnected lunatic who’s off his meds?

I wouldn’t think so.

If Conservatives dealt with the adherents of Libéralisme Moderne the way the Left has dealt with humans in general whenever the Left has obtained unrestrained power, there wouldn’t be any Liberals left standing. Of the universities and the urban centers of Liberalism there would be nothing left but smoking ruins, and there would mass graves from coast to coast.

In my own view the present day Left, like the unschooled barbarians who plagued civilization before them, are essentially parasites. If the Hun or the Mongol were to take “no” for an answer to their demands for food and other material goods they would die very quickly. Compulsion, taking things and persons by force, is inherently necessary to the parasite manner of existence. Those who resisted had to be killed as an object lesson for others.

The Left, the present-day literate post-marxian barbarians, not only need material support they also need spiritual support as well. Barbarian chieftains and tribal witch-doctors demanded degrading and often dangerous acts of worship from their subjects, up to and including human sacrifice, in order to assure themselves that they would still have a roof (or a tent) over their heads and food to eat the next day. Those refused to obey were worked over by the goon squad or simply killed.

In the classrooms and editorial offices of the Left the demand is for unquestioned agreement without regard to the actual facts of reality. The self-styled intellectuals of the Left are the first to demand “speech codes” and other forms of censorship lest they be identified as frauds and poseurs and subsequently bounced out of their comfortable ivory towers, no longer insulated from a real world that demands real thought and real labor.

153 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:15am

re: #144 shiek al beif salami

Who is John Galt?

Huh?
(“Shrugs” shoulders.)

154 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:19am

re: #145 iceweasel

Calling on Obama to resign is just like the Nirther movement— what the hell? They’re crazies making a lunatic demand and dreaming of deposing obama.

In reality, even if they got their fondest wish (deposing Obama)— What the hell? So BIDEN will be POTUS? WTF are these people even thinking?

Just insanity.


Yep. And just think, if Biden was POTUS, who would be next in the line of succession?!

155 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:41:36am

re: #147 HAL2010

I have tried on several occasions to find out, but always failed. Have you seen the size of the Atlas Shrugs?

And here I thought it was a door stop. You mean I was supposed to READ it?

156 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:42:19am

re: #149 jcm

The literal figure.

re: #151 debutaunt

Doh. Seems it was longer than I care remember since I tried reading it.

157 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:42:21am

re: #154 realwest

Yep. And just think, if Biden was POTUS, who would be next in the line of succession?!

Blinky Stretch! Won’t that be spushuyl!

158 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:43:03am

re: #22 realwest

I disagree with Charles’ assertion that Rall - scumbag that he’s always been - should join the Far Right, as I haven’t seen anyone on the Far Right calling for Obama to resign …

There are a LOT of right-wing blogs calling for Obama to resign.

159 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:43:33am

re: #155 FurryOldGuyJeans

Every time I got about halfway through it I always forgot what the hell happened in the beginning of the book, and so began reading it again, got about halfway through and ..

Well, you get the point.

160 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:43:35am

re: #154 realwest

Yep. And just think, if Biden was POTUS, who would be next in the line of succession?!

Only until he nominates a replacement.

And if Biden did succeed, wanna take bets within a few days he resigns for reasons of health?

161 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:43:56am

re: #145 iceweasel

Calling on Obama to resign is just like the Nirther movement— what the hell? They’re crazies making a lunatic demand and dreaming of deposing obama,

On my local talker station there was an ad for a Nirther group. The logical fallacies were making me laugh: ‘we have had to bring lawsuits for him to prove his citizenship/he’s had to spend millions with lawyers to hide his records.’

It was awesome. I should go find their site for laughs. It was a ‘Concerned Citizens’ something or nirther… er, other, name.

162 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:44:00am

re: #144 shiek al beif salami

Who is John Galt?

John Galt is a douchebag living on a concrete platform offshore and dealing drugs, if we look at this glibertarian proposal:

[Link: www.cato-unbound.org…]

163 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:44:17am

re: #158 Charles Ah, which Far Right blogs Charles?

164 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:45:12am

re: #163 realwest

Ah, which Far Right blogs Charles?

I’ve seen dozens of posts at right-wing blogs. Try Google’s blog search if you don’t believe me.

165 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:46:17am

I wonder if some of these lefties turning on ‘zero’ has any implications for 2010 and even 2012? I have always thought that the novelty of voting for ‘the historical first black president’ idea was a 1-shot deal. Now that Americans have that out of their system, I don’t think they will do that again. Obama’s poll numbers aren’t lousy, but they aren’t great either (look at the POTUS approval ratings on the left sidebar of the RCP website). Yes, it is too early to really say this will have a effect, but if this continues, that becomes a trend and trends are important

166 Sunlight  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:46:33am

So if Rall gets says “overheated” things objecting to how Obama is operating that cross some threshold, his observations have to be re-allotted to the “right”? Really? Because unless the left actually wants Herbert Marcuse style marxism, they eventually will squawk, because that is who is in office. Soviet marxism was ever so corrupt and bad for the little people (which is how I think of my station during this administration). So if Rall was hoping for the world to change into his version of utopia, he blames Obama when the world doesn’t cooperate. Why does that mean he has wrapped around to the right?

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:46:41am

re: #164 Charles

I’ve seen dozens of posts at right-wing blogs. Try Google’s blog search if you don’t believe me.

You swim in the cesspool so we don’t have to. I appreciate the hard work, Charles.

168 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:46:47am

re: #160 FurryOldGuyJeans

Only until he nominates a replacement.

And if Biden did succeed, wanna take bets within a few days he resigns for reasons of health?

all liberals should step down and at least half of the rest…a massive walk out…whoa!…maybe Bill Gates would step in and run things for awhile

169 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:47:36am

re: #156 HAL2010

The literal figure.

re: #151 debutaunt

Doh. Seems it was longer than I care remember since I tried reading it.

From wiki….

After graduating, Galt becomes an engineer at the Twentieth Century Motor Works where he designs a revolutionary new motor powered by ambient static electricity with the potential to change the world. Like Ellis Wyatt, he creates what many had for years said was impossible. When the company owners decide to run the factory by the collectivist maxim, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”, Galt organizes a successful labor strike (but this time getting employers, inventors, businessmen and industrialists to go on strike against statist laws that violate their rights), proclaiming his promise to stop the motor of the world. Galt begins traversing the globe (while working as a general labourer for Taggart Transcontinental), meeting the world’s most successful businessmen, systematically convincing them to follow in his footsteps; one by one, they began abandoning their business empires (which, Galt convinces them, were doomed to failure anyhow, given the increased nationalization of industry by the government). This strike forms the backdrop of the novel as the mystery which protagonist Dagny Taggart seeks to uncover, with Galt as her antagonist (the novel was originally titled The Strike).


Galt represents what would happen to productivity at the right side of the Laffer curve.

170 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:47:39am

re: #164 Charles

I’ve seen dozens of posts at right-wing blogs. Try Google’s blog search if you don’t believe me.

I don’t really care if he resigns or not, but I wish he would stay the hell our of the city tonight. I’m suppose to go in to meet people and I can only imagine the traffic jams because he wants to take Michelle out tonight. Maybe I should cancel my plans, since it will only raise my blood pressure.

171 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:47:46am

re: #145 iceweasel

Calling on Obama to resign is just like the Nirther movement— what the hell? They’re crazies making a lunatic demand and dreaming of deposing obama.

In reality, even if they got their fondest wish (deposing Obama)— What the hell? So BIDEN will be POTUS? WTF are these people even thinking?

Just insanity.

I think that in both cases there is an accompanying fantasy that because of the INCREDIBLE deceit that has been uncovered and dealt with, a whole new day will dawn—sort of another Revolution without the fighting or general unpleasantness—and someone else will step in. Possibly Naomi Klein.

They’re not thinking rationally, or taking into account the functional structure of the U.S. government. You can see that Rall’s not using reason here—he wants Obama to resign in recognition of the fact that Rall think’s he’s a weasel—well weasels don’t resign out of embarassment. Because they are weasels.

A lot of people put a lot of emotional money on Obama being the president they wanted in the late sixties, and never got. These same people will now hate him with a passion equal to the passion they directed at Bush. He was supposed to make a clean sweep, throw open the doors, kiss the feet of the world, and never do anything mean again. His failure to do that is unforgivable, because they’ve worked Bush up in their minds into a figure of total evil, and anything of his that Obama continues…well, you see how it goes.

172 KenJen  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:47:52am

re: #165 chicagodudewhotrades

I wonder if some of these lefties turning on ‘zero’ has any implications for 2010 and even 2012? I have always thought that the novelty of voting for ‘the historical first black president’ idea was a 1-shot deal. Now that Americans have that out of their system, I don’t think they will do that again. Obama’s poll numbers aren’t lousy, but they aren’t great either (look at the POTUS approval ratings on the left sidebar of the RCP website). Yes, it is too early to really say this will have a effect, but if this continues, that becomes a trend and trends are important


If people don’t start getting all that free stuff he promised he’s gonna be in real trouble.

173 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:48:56am

re: #169 jcm

It’s one of my favorite novels.

174 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:15am

re: #132 Killgore Trout

It’s also interesting to see that Glen Jenvey was also involved in the Luton scene. He’s been cooking up fake stories about Muslims for quite some time.

He’s clearly a ‘shockpuppet’.

175 Sunlight  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:16am

re: #147 HAL2010

I have tried on several occasions to find out, but always failed. Have you seen the size of the Atlas Shrugs?

You can download it on audible and listen to it on your ipod at the gym, doing yardwork, folding laundry, driving… I’ve read it and listened to it. It is very long, but worth the effort. A fabulous story.

176 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:16am

re: #155 FurryOldGuyJeans

When I was a kid, I wasn’t supposed to read it because of all the animal passion scenes. So, reading it with a flashlight under a blanket, it took me most of a weekend to get through it.

Thank God for National Geographic and Ayn Rand in the day. Otherwise, how would we have learned about the birds and the bees?

177 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:31am

re: #166 Sunlight

So if Rall gets says “overheated” things objecting to how Obama is operating that cross some threshold, his observations have to be re-allotted to the “right”? Really? Because unless the left actually wants Herbert Marcuse style marxism, they eventually will squawk, because that is who is in office. Soviet marxism was ever so corrupt and bad for the little people (which is how I think of my station during this administration). So if Rall was hoping for the world to change into his version of utopia, he blames Obama when the world doesn’t cooperate. Why does that mean he has wrapped around to the right?

Maybe because he’s hating Obama, ya think? Is this a difficult point to comprehend?

178 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:42am

re: #165 chicagodudewhotrades

I wonder if some of these lefties turning on ‘zero’ has any implications for 2010 and even 2012? I have always thought that the novelty of voting for ‘the historical first black president’ idea was a 1-shot deal. Now that Americans have that out of their system, I don’t think they will do that again. Obama’s poll numbers aren’t lousy, but they aren’t great either (look at the POTUS approval ratings on the left sidebar of the RCP website). Yes, it is too early to really say this will have a effect, but if this continues, that becomes a trend and trends are important

The hard left isn’t that big a voting block, is the thing.

179 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:49:46am

re: #168 albusteve

all liberals should step down and at least half of the rest…a massive walk out…whoa!…maybe Bill Gates would step in and run things for awhile

Nah, just time for the voters to wise up and toss out THEIR bum. I hear enough people complain about other politicians but have heaps of praise for the ones that represent them.

180 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:50:41am

re: #129 realwest

Yes, that is undoubtedly true. But that also means you think Rall qualifies as a “People” or “Person” while I tend to think of him as a cross wired, fried to the gills LUNATIC.

* * * *
Hi Realwest Sir,

I’ll take your word for it Ralls is a disgusting person. It’s a shame such sociopaths have a following.

181 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:50:44am

re: #164 Charles Posts as in the way we use the term “threads” or in the way we use the term comments?
And I do believe you, but given that there are only 4 blogs I ever read: LGF, Jammiewearingfool, A Blog For All (lawhawk) and Autographed Letter (Afrocity) I just haven’t seen any.
BUT, as long as I have your attention, do you think you could see you’re way clear to deleting comment #21 on the prior…………oh, nevermind!

182 Tatterdemalian  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:51:37am

“Wraps around.” Damn, I love it when computer jagon enters mainstream usage. I wonder if anyone even remembers who invented that term, and why it was called “wrapping around” instead of, say, “rolling over” or “edge jumping.”

183 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:51:53am

re: #161 BigPapa

On my local talker station there was an ad for a Nirther group. The logical fallacies were making me laugh: ‘we have had to bring lawsuits for him to prove his citizenship/he’s had to spend millions with lawyers to hide his records.’

It was awesome. I should go find their site for laughs. It was a ‘Concerned Citizens’ something or nirther… er, other, name.

Oy. The crazy nirther shit enraged me from the start,— and one reason I admire Charles is that he held his ground there and was one of the sole voices on the right for reason.

184 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:52:45am

re: #169 jcm

Thanks!

185 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:52:59am

re: #182 Tatterdemalian

“Wraps around.” Damn, I love it when computer jagon enters mainstream usage. I wonder if anyone even remembers who invented that term, and why it was called “wrapping around” instead of, say, “rolling over” or “edge jumping.”

Well, I do. One use is as a term referring to bit shift operations, in which the high order bit wraps around to the low order bit, or vice versa.

186 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:53:31am

re: #175 Sunlight

or in line at the DMV, post office, during an Oliver Stone movie.

I just listened to the Audible version, but wasn’t that fond of the reader’s voice.

187 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:54:07am

re: #179 FurryOldGuyJeans

Nah, just time for the voters to wise up and toss out THEIR bum. I hear enough people complain about other politicians but have heaps of praise for the ones that represent them.

the massive number of non voters are watching as well…very interesting times…I’m juiced for 2010 already, maybe saner minds will speak out this time

188 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:54:32am

re: #164 Charles

I’ve seen dozens of posts at right-wing blogs. Try Google’s blog search if you don’t believe me.

The thing is that folks on the actual right object to Barack Obama because he is a grossly incompetent adherent of an invalid ideology.

Rall on the other hand apparently objects to Obama practicing Washington Establishment politics as usual instead of firing up the Mark One, Mod Zero Marxist Mass Murder Machine.

I could wish that Rall would actually experience a true Marxist state from the victim’s point of view, but that would be a violation of the forum rules.

189 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:54:43am

re: #183 iceweasel Yep, me too and the fact that those folks couldn’t understand, EVEN AFTER THEY LOST IN COURT, that Obama was playing them and making them waste their time on something just so stupid (if there had been ANY truth to it, is there any doubt in your mind that Hillary wouldn’t have found it?) as to be beyond rational comprehension.

190 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:55:40am

re: #188 The Other Les

Imagine if Rall was a Nork and wrote his screed about Dear Leader.

191 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:55:40am

re: #173 debutaunt

It’s one of my favorite novels.

Anthem different from her normal fair.

192 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:04am

re: #181 realwest

BUT, as long as I have your attention, do you think you could see you’re way clear to deleting comment #21 on the prior…………oh, nevermind!

Maybe you should have another look at that comment.

193 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:19am

Well I’m late for the Saturday morning Movie review..Could not find crap on all morning..So I rented Bolt…
Bolt.. John Travolta, Miley Cyrus..
This is a kids movie..Disney movie..
The script is superb..The graphics are wonderful…This is a classic kids movie that adults will laugh their ass off…Like Shriek was.. I give Bolt 5 out of 5 stars for a kids movie…
Lizards..This movie just went into my top 5 kids movies…
/This was a fun review..Remember all the saturday early movie reviews of those heavy dramas? It’s springtime! No dramas till next winter….

194 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:28am

re: #191 jcm

Anthem different from her normal fair.

fare?

195 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:39am

re: #192 Charles I did, that’s why I said “oh, nevermind”!
Nice work, Charles.

196 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:50am

re: #190 shiek al beif salami

Imagine if Rall was a Nork and wrote his screed about Dear Leader.

His entire family would disappear and be blotted out.

197 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:55am

re: #191 jcm

Anthem different from her normal fair.

I read that because I was looking for a companion book to The Giver for my more advanced readers. I hated the ending so much I couldn’t bear to assign it.

198 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:56:56am

re: #154 realwest

Yep. And just think, if Biden was POTUS, who would be next in the line of succession?!

hey, I VOTED and campaigned for Obama, yet I hate Pelosi and Reid, and don’t want Biden to ever be potus.

199 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:15am

re: #181 realwest

You must have heard the far right screaming that Obama is deliberately destroying America? I think we can safely include them in the category of those who want Obama to resign, whether they explictly use those words or not.

200 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:21am

re: #194 debutaunt

fare?

Thank you……

I need an English teacher…..

201 razorbacker  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:22am

My wife-woman and I were chatting over breakfast just this morn. She is the payroll department for a local food manufacturer, her office is located in the hall where the workers enter the building and lots of them stop and speak on their way to work.

One of her buddies is a young black fellow of 25. He stops most every day to flirt and talk sports. Yesterday, after stopping to pick up his paycheck, he began to vent a little.

‘What is this damned President of ours doing to us?’ he asked. ‘How come every month now I have a little less money in the bank? Why isn’t my stimulus money more than this little old tiny dribble? How come gasoline is going up again? Why do my groceries cost more every week? How come my Newports cost $6 a pack? What the hell good is it doing me to have a black President?”

Kinda early to hear stuff like this, I would have thought.

202 Ojoe  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:28am

re: #187 albusteve

The massive number of non-voters do the country a disservice. On the other hand, neither main party has an image of moderation and common sense at this point.

But the non voters, and the non-thinkers, they are the real problem. It is laziness and inaction that lets the crazies have influence, for crazies are energetic.

This is an eternal problem & it explains much in history.

203 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:30am

re: #187 albusteve

the massive number of non voters are watching as well…very interesting times…I’m juiced for 2010 already, maybe saner minds will speak out this time

I am just hoping the influx of youthful voters we had in 2008 get distracted by some other shiny object in 2010.

204 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:57:54am

re: #190 shiek al beif salami

Imagine if Rall was a Nork and wrote his screed about Dear Leader.

That would work.

[Unlike a Marxist…] ;-)

205 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:58:43am

re: #200 jcm

Thank you……

I need an English teacher…..

I do the same thing and just sit and stare as it looks wrong.

206 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:59:09am

re: #192 Charles

Maybe you should have another look at that comment.

Thank you, Charles.

207 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:59:18am
From health care to torture to the economy to war, Obama has reneged on pledges real and implied.


Cry, baby, cry….
This wailin’ Rall expects instantaneous complete make-overs? He truly is delusional.

208 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:59:32am

re: #190 shiek al beif salami

Imagine if Rall was a Nork and wrote his screed about Dear Leader.

He’d be a hit in Russia, Iran, China, or Cuba.

/ did I leave some place out?

209 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:59:35am

re: #199 Jimmah Well without getting into Right or Far Right, I don’t appreciate the way in which Obama is guiding this country.
There is a huge difference in wanting Obama’s policies not to work (on the theory that he’ll change them) to wanting to impeach him or have him remove himself from office.

210 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 10:59:44am

re: #199 Jimmah

You must have heard the far right screaming that Obama is deliberately destroying America? I think we can safely include them in the category of those who want Obama to resign, whether they explictly use those words or not.

No, they (at least the sane ones), just want to whip up enough anger toward him that he only lasts one term.

211 Sunlight  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:00:35am

re: #177 Charles

Maybe because he’s hating Obama, ya think? Is this a difficult point to comprehend?

Only people on the right are capable of hating a politician? Hmmm. I understand what you’re saying, but I just don’t agree with the conclusion. Some of my lefty friends have created an entire political philosophy based on hating Bush. I was at UCSD when Herbert Marcuse was there and he used to sit in the kitchen of student parties in their rented beach houses and tell us… well, listen to Michelle and Barak and that could be a recording of Dr. Marcuse. I actually think many people, even dems in a passive, self-preserving way, will push back against marxism. They are wishing things could be this dreamy vision… I’m listening to my friends to see when they might realize that their dreams of windmills and switchgrass (before they are ready for prime time) are going to starve a bunch of people internationally who have counted on our economy to get out of hunger. Micro loans won’t cut it unless people can buy.

212 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:00:46am

re: #192 Charles

Nice way to make an example of them Charles. I wonder if they’ll get the message, with the bonus irony?

213 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:00:46am

re: #207 solomonpanting

Call me cynical, but anyone who believes what a politician says is by definition delusional.

214 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:00:58am

re: #209 realwest

Well without getting into Right or Far Right, I don’t appreciate the way in which Obama is guiding this country.
There is a huge difference in wanting Obama’s policies not to work (on the theory that he’ll change them) to wanting to impeach him or have him remove himself from office.

I want him removed from office, in January 2013, when he gets pwned like Carter.

So far I have my doubts of that ever happening.

215 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:01:02am

re: #201 razorbacker

My wife-woman and I were chatting over breakfast just this morn. She is the payroll department for a local food manufacturer, her office is located in the hall where the workers enter the building and lots of them stop and speak on their way to work.

One of her buddies is a young black fellow of 25. He stops most every day to flirt and talk sports. Yesterday, after stopping to pick up his paycheck, he began to vent a little.

‘What is this damned President of ours doing to us?’ he asked. ‘How come every month now I have a little less money in the bank? Why isn’t my stimulus money more than this little old tiny dribble? How come gasoline is going up again? Why do my groceries cost more every week? How come my Newports cost $6 a pack? What the hell good is it doing me to have a black President?”

Kinda early to hear stuff like this, I would have thought.

Except that the bottom completely fell out of the economy last fall, so I think a certain level of voter angst and anger is sort of to be expected.

216 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:01:03am

re: #203 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am just hoping the influx of youthful voters we had in 2008 get distracted by some other shiny object in 2010.

I’m hoping they will see exactly what is happening and the pendulum goes the other way.

217 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:01:18am

re: #201 razorbacker

My wife-woman and I were chatting over breakfast just this morn. She is the payroll department for a local food manufacturer, her office is located in the hall where the workers enter the building and lots of them stop and speak on their way to work.

One of her buddies is a young black fellow of 25. He stops most every day to flirt and talk sports. Yesterday, after stopping to pick up his paycheck, he began to vent a little.

‘What is this damned President of ours doing to us?’ he asked. ‘How come every month now I have a little less money in the bank? Why isn’t my stimulus money more than this little old tiny dribble? How come gasoline is going up again? Why do my groceries cost more every week? How come my Newports cost $6 a pack? What the hell good is it doing me to have a black President?”

Kinda early to hear stuff like this, I would have thought.

He’s sadly mistaken, it’s not about race, not in the presidency, in the supreme court, not in convicting black panthers who troll polling places. it’s really not about race. Tell your wife to tell that guy it’s not about race. :)

218 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:01:40am

re: #208 FurryOldGuyJeans

Zimbabwe. Venezuela. Sudan. Saudi Arabia.

219 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:01:56am

re: #203 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am just hoping the influx of youthful voters we had in 2008 get distracted by some other shiny object in 2010.

they may well become discouraged with BOs refusal to placate their ideals and walk away…I never saw any numbers on their actual influence on the election tho in terms of numbers…their youthful exuberance was probably contagious

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:02:11am

re: #213 shiek al beif salami

Call me cynical, but anyone who believes what a politician says is by definition delusional.

Put not your trust in princes…

221 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:02:19am

re: #207 solomonpanting

Cry, baby, cry….
This wailin’ Rall expects instantaneous complete make-overs? He truly is delusional.

You rang?

Youtube Video
222 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:02:39am

re: #206 MandyManners

Thank you, Charles.

Mandy…For the kids..see my #193..
Regards

223 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:03am

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

or assholes.

224 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:04am

re: #222 HoosierHoops

Mandy…For the kids..see my #193..
Regards

What fun are you having this weekend?

225 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:06am

re: #218 shiek al beif salami

Zimbabwe. Venezuela. Sudan. Saudi Arabia.

I knew I was missing some, thanks for the backstop. :)

226 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:17am

re: #209 realwest

Well without getting into Right or Far Right, I don’t appreciate the way in which Obama is guiding this country.
There is a huge difference in wanting Obama’s policies not to work (on the theory that he’ll change them) to wanting to impeach him or have him remove himself from office.

As in “I hope he fails.”
However, there are some here who apparently hope some of his policies are indeed enacted and come to fruition.

227 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:28am

Unsurprisingly, Rall also comes down on the pro-piracy side:

At this writing, a Somali child is sitting in a prison in New York, charged with piracy in the Indian Ocean

The poor little urchin! He’s, what, three years old, or something, right? A

228 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:03:35am

re: #202 Ojoe

The massive number of non-voters do the country a disservice. On the other hand, neither main party has an image of moderation and common sense at this point.

But the non voters, and the non-thinkers, they are the real problem. It is laziness and inaction that lets the crazies have influence, for crazies are energetic.

This is an eternal problem & it explains much in history.

there are millions of potential voters unaware of Ron Paul or Ted Rall or the rest….they understand taxes tho, and questionable dramatic change…the MSM has a responsibility here too

229 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:04:03am

re: #227 Occasional Reader

Unsurprisingly, Rall also comes down on the pro-piracy side:


The poor little urchin! He’s, what, three years old, or something, right? A

Ripped from his mother’s arms.

230 realwest  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:04:06am

Well y’all it’s been grand (mostly) but I gotta get back to my chores!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

231 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:04:10am

re: #222 HoosierHoops

Mandy…For the kids..see my #193..
Regards

Oh, he loves it!

232 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:04:17am

re: #201 razorbacker

Your wife should tell the employee to stop smoking, there is a bunch of money right there…….

233 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:04:46am

re: #227 Occasional Reader

Unsurprisingly, Rall also comes down on the pro-piracy side:


The poor little urchin! He’s, what, three years old, or something, right? A

I’m getting the feeling that Rall hates good and embraces evil.

234 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:05:39am

re: #227 Occasional Reader

I wonder if the plastic surgeon was able to fix the big hole in his hand where the American sailor used an ice pick to pin the poor, misunderstood child to a table?

235 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:05:57am

re: #203 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am just hoping the influx of youthful voters we had in 2008 get distracted by some other shiny object in 2010.

* * * *
I want our first-time voters to EXPERIENCE the consequences of their vote. Yes, we did all right. Did it to ourselves.

“you say you want a revolution, well…” As the Beatles sang.

236 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:06:31am

re: #233 MandyManners

I’m getting the feeling that Rall hates good and embraces evil.

Total. Mental. Inversion.

/Shatner

237 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:06:36am

re: #233 MandyManners

I’m getting the feeling that Rall hates good and embraces evil.

He did a piece on Gorbachev’s death, where he basically blamed him for the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan—because if the Soviets had pursued their war there, none of this would ever have happened. The mind quivers like a bowl of Jell-O.

238 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:06:40am

Actually, I have to agree that it’s a misnomer to say that Rall has gone “around to the right”. He is essentially complaining that Obama hasn’t turned out to be LEFT enough for him; too much like Bush, etc. The Cindy Sheehan/Code Pink crowd has the same complaint (as witnessed by their Bush-era-like rally in DC a couple months back); that hardly makes them “right-wingers”.

239 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:07:09am

re: #234 shiek al beif salami

I wonder if the plastic surgeon was able to fix the big hole in his hand where the American sailor used an ice pick to pin the poor, misunderstood child to a table?

Fancy doing that to a three-year-old. Our sailors are mean people.

/

240 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:08:04am

re: #236 The Other Les

Total. Mental. Inversion.

/Shatner

I might add “Moral” to the “Mental”.

241 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:08:10am

re: #216 debutaunt

I’m hoping they will see exactly what is happening and the pendulum goes the other way.

* * * *

Hear, hear. Applied learning. Worked for Ronald Reagan, who voted FOUR TIMES for FDR and the New Deal, before deciding paternalistic statism wasn’t the solution to many of America’s problems.

242 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:08:11am

re: #235 alegrias

* * * *
I want our first-time voters to EXPERIENCE the consequences of their vote. Yes, we did all right. Did it to ourselves.

“you say you want a revolution, well…” As the Beatles sang.

good point, but I have doubts as to how long they will pay attention…it was, after all, simply a popularity contest….they have no clue why or from where the BDS came from

243 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:08:14am

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

What fun are you having this weekend?

Hi Walter..Kind Regards!
I’m hanging out on the deck with the laptop..Playing in the pool..Watching movies…Mama is out shopping with our daughter…It’s warm and a big storm is gathering in a couple hours..Typical Indiana Shit…
And Winston has decided that all birds in the backyard are his..They are messing with his head.. Life is sweet Walter..How bout you?

244 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:08:22am

re: #209 realwest

Well without getting into Right or Far Right, I don’t appreciate the way in which Obama is guiding this country.
There is a huge difference in wanting Obama’s policies not to work (on the theory that he’ll change them) to wanting to impeach him or have him remove himself from office.

We are talking about people who believe that their President is on a countrycidal rampage to deliberately destroy all that they hold dear. Now that the ‘Obama must resign meme’ has been given this prominent boost, I think you’ll see a lot more of these people repeating it.

245 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:09:03am

re: #237 SanFranciscoZionist

He did a piece on Gorbachev’s death, where he basically blamed him for the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan—because if the Soviets had pursued their war there, none of this would ever have happened. The mind quivers like a bowl of Jell-O.

Considering what he’s written about Tillman, I’m not surprised.

246 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:09:12am

re: #238 Occasional Reader

Actually, I have to agree that it’s a misnomer to say that Rall has gone “around to the right”. He is essentially complaining that Obama hasn’t turned out to be LEFT enough for him; too much like Bush, etc. The Cindy Sheehan/Code Pink crowd has the same complaint (as witnessed by their Bush-era-like rally in DC a couple months back); that hardly makes them “right-wingers”.

I agree. The hard-right whack cases have enough going for them in their little crazy world then to have to pin lefty nut cases on them, like Ted Rall. Unless, as you imply above, we consider Bush to have been far right.

247 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:09:36am

re: #210 SanFranciscoZionist

No, they (at least the sane ones), just want to whip up enough anger toward him that he only lasts one term.

Sure, but we are not talking about the sane ones here, we are talking about the screaming ones. And there seems to be plenty of them these days.

248 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:09:39am

re: #189 realwest

Yep, me too and the fact that those folks couldn’t understand, EVEN AFTER THEY LOST IN COURT, that Obama was playing them and making them waste their time on something just so stupid (if there had been ANY truth to it, is there any doubt in your mind that Hillary wouldn’t have found it?) as to be beyond rational comprehension.

I truly believe that Obama made a brilliant political decision when he chose to ignore all that. He never addressed them, he just let it all ride.

Obama supporters and liberals in general are completely joyous about anyone on the other side wasting time on this BC stuff.. I promise.

I’m with you—I’m pretty damn cynical and I always assumed that if there was an issue there, the Clinton machine would have uncovered it and then flogged it EVERYWHERE (and I say that as a lib who initially supported hillary)

249 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:10:11am

re: #245 MandyManners

Considering what he’s written about Tillman, I’m not surprised.

Not to mention his loathsome cartoon about Marianne Pearl.

250 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:10:15am

re: #244 Jimmah

We are talking about people who believe that their President is on a countrycidal rampage to deliberately destroy all that they hold dear. Now that the ‘Obama must resign meme’ has been given this prominent boost, I think you’ll see a lot more of these people repeating it.


Rall is “prominent”?

251 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:10:22am

re: #244 Jimmah

He’s not on a countrycidal rampage? Oh. I guess I was on break when they made the announcement.

/ just in case.

252 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:10:46am

re: #201 razorbacker

My wife-woman and I were chatting over breakfast just this morn. She is the payroll department for a local food manufacturer, her office is located in the hall where the workers enter the building and lots of them stop and speak on their way to work.

One of her buddies is a young black fellow of 25. He stops most every day to flirt and talk sports. Yesterday, after stopping to pick up his paycheck, he began to vent a little.

‘What is this damned President of ours doing to us?’ he asked. ‘How come every month now I have a little less money in the bank? Why isn’t my stimulus money more than this little old tiny dribble? How come gasoline is going up again? Why do my groceries cost more every week? How come my Newports cost $6 a pack? What the hell good is it doing me to have a black President?”

Kinda early to hear stuff like this, I would have thought.

I suspect that there are many people out there who had Obamanisms when he was elected, but have become sorely disappointed in the Anointed.

253 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:10:53am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Not to mention his loathsome cartoon about Marianne Pearl.

I’m glad I missed that one.

254 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:11:36am

Am I the only one who thinks Rall got a wedgie every day and his ass kicked for his lunch money when he was in school?

255 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:12:04am

re: #227 Occasional Reader

Unsurprisingly, Rall also comes down on the pro-piracy side:


The poor little urchin! He’s, what, three years old, or something, right? A

What have the monsters done with his pacifier?

256 razorbacker  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:12:08am

re: #232 chicagodudewhotrades

Your wife should tell the employee to stop smoking, there is a bunch of money right there…….

His point, I believe, is that he was playing by the rules. He was working. He was saving money. He pays his bills on time. He pays his taxes. He has no more children than he and his women can support.

And he doesn’t care for folks telling him what he may buy, how he should use his time, or how large or plush his automobile may be.

He sounds a bit reactionary for today’s times, I’ll admit, but there used to be a whole country of people like him.

257 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:12:36am

re: #253 MandyManners

I’m glad I missed that one.

G-D only gives you the aggravation you can handle. Of course sometimes he screws up?

258 DEZes  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:12:43am

re: #254 MandyManners

Am I the only one who thinks Rall got a wedgie every day and his ass kicked for his lunch money when he was in school?

Ne needs more wedgies.

259 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:09am

re: #253 MandyManners

I’m glad I missed that one.

“Terror Widows” was the title or theme, IIRC. He essentially was accusing Marianne of profiteering from her husband’s murder. He is lower than dirt.

260 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:17am

re: #250 MandyManners

Rall is “prominent”?

More prominent than your usual anonymous right wing internet chin dribbler.

261 Tatterdemalian  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:18am

re: #185 Charles

Everybody on the Internet knows what it originally meant, I was just wondering about the “why” and “who.” The earliest mention of it I can find in my archive is from an article by Fred D’Ignazio in COMPUTE! magazine, explaining the principle using a partially eaten sandwich (“byte”, get it?) wrapped in Saran Wrap.

262 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:19am

re: #250 MandyManners

Rall is “prominent”?

Like a oozing pus filled boil on someone’s forehead.

263 WindHorse  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:48am

Rall…. fired from some job? I wonder why?

264 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:13:50am

re: #244 Jimmah

We are talking about people who believe that their President is on a countrycidal rampage to deliberately destroy all that they hold dear. Now that the ‘Obama must resign meme’ has been given this prominent boost, I think you’ll see a lot more of these people repeating it.

I don’t think the call to resign will go far with a very popular POTUS. There is a vocal minority that thinks the sky is falling, but it is still pretty small. His approval has been flat to rising.

link

265 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:14:02am

Time to head out to the grocery store.

Shrimp with baby bok choy in a ginger/wasabi sauce over rice for dinner. :)

266 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:14:10am

re: #248 iceweasel

I truly believe that Obama made a brilliant political decision when he chose to ignore all that. He never addressed them, he just let it all ride.

Obama supporters and liberals in general are completely joyous about anyone on the other side wasting time on this BC stuff.. I promise.

I’m with you—I’m pretty damn cynical and I always assumed that if there was an issue there, the Clinton machine would have uncovered it and then flogged it EVERYWHERE (and I say that as a lib who initially supported hillary)

the mystery of BO is not over yet….whether it’s a birth cert or school and work records….there are problems with this guy…autobiographies?…tapes held by the LAT….he’s dodged alot of exposure that others would not have imo…and the media is complicit…he’s no brilliant politician, that’s way over the top

267 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:14:15am

re: #255 debutaunt

What have the monsters done with his pacifier?

I was recently talking with an acquaintance who is an oil tanker captain. He was full of interesting ideas of what should be done with pirates… none of which I can post here, for fear of deletion.

268 coquimbojoe  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:14:24am

re: #262 jcm

Like a oozing pus filled boil on someone’s forehead.

Forehead? I was thinking taint or maybe a hogs arse….

269 AuntAcid  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:15:02am

re: #252 rightymouse

I suspect that there are many people out there who had Obamanisms when he was elected, but have become sorely disappointed in the Anointed.

Ya gotta wonder when the MSM is gonna wise up…’course, then they gotta admit they were wrong all along ‘bout the “O” man.

270 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:15:12am

re: #262 jcm

Like a oozing pus filled boil on someone’s forehead.

oh man

271 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:15:31am

re: #254 MandyManners

He also probably ate dried Elmer’s glue and wore a pair of heavy black-framed, Coke-bottle-thick glasses. And ink stains on the pocket of his short-sleeved white shirt.

272 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:16:23am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

Hi Walter..Kind Regards!
I’m hanging out on the deck with the laptop..Playing in the pool..Watching movies…Mama is out shopping with our daughter…It’s warm and a big storm is gathering in a couple hours..Typical Indiana Shit…
And Winston has decided that all birds in the backyard are his..They are messing with his head.. Life is sweet Walter..How bout you?

I can only talk about my weekdays, since weekends are basically my work days. This past Thursday, did a 4 mile hike on top of Mount Falcon, over-looking Red Rocks Amphitheater. A bit annoying having the warm up acts at Red Rocks invading the quiet of the mountain tops. Like having a 10 square mile boom box in the woods.

But the hike was good. Saw deer, tuffed black squirrel, lots of birds, horse shit, mountain bikers, fresh air, all at a healthy 7500 feet.

Jefferson County where I live has more open space parks and trails per capita than most counties in the country.

A lot of it under a half hour’s drive from my apartment in Golden.

[Link: www.co.jefferson.co.us…]

273 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:16:39am

re: #254 MandyManners

JCM has proof in a post above that he got his ass thrown out a window by a dog.

274 Tarkus289  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:16:43am

re: #237 SanFranciscoZionist

Gorbachev is still alive, as far as I know.

275 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:17:07am

re: #264 avanti

I don’t think the call to resign will go far with a very popular POTUS. There is a vocal minority that thinks the sky is falling, but it is still pretty small. His approval has been flat to rising.

link

For sure. When I say I can see this meme taking off, I mean taking off within the ever decreasing circles of the far right.

276 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:17:53am

re: #274 Tarkus289

Gorbachev is still alive, as far as I know.

Correct. I’m guessing that was a typo/”thinko” for Brezhnev.

277 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:18:37am

re: #264 avanti

I don’t think the call to resign will go far with a very popular POTUS. There is a vocal minority that thinks the sky is falling, but it is still pretty small. His approval has been flat to rising.

link

Ted Rall is not exactly some unknown little fish, he is rather well read (and liked) by the far left (The Nation sort of people). This is not a small issue.

278 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:18:41am

re: #249 Occasional Reader

Not to mention his loathsome cartoon about Marianne Pearl.

Christ. Do I even want a link? Yeah. I want a link.

279 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:04am

re: #276 Occasional Reader

Correct. I’m guessing that was a typo/”thinko” for Brezhnev.

Wasn’t Andropov the chief Commie then?

280 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:07am

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

Speaking of Horse Shit:

Service Animals - Pets Helping People

[Link: www.pawnation.com…]

Clean up on aisle 4!

281 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:20am

re: #251 shiek al beif salami

He’s not on a countrycidal rampage? Oh. I guess I was on break when they made the announcement.

/ just in case.

See what I mean.

282 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:22am

re: #273 BigPapa

The dog didn’t push the guy out the window; the guy jumped when the dog licked his butt.

Dogs do that, you know.

283 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:30am

OT

Remember all those mystery reporters reporting from inside the jihadists’ bosom?

America hating author Hala Jaber is reported as doing her “work” in yesterday’s WashPost book review by Carolyn See:

“When the [Al Qaeda in Iraq] insurgency heated up and the Americans were preparing to storm Fallujah, she asked to be embedded with the insurgents and spent a harrowing night COOKING FOR THEM as they broke their Ramadan fast….”

This creep is lauded for her “award-winning journalistic work” aiding & abetting people who murdered Americans and innocent Iraqis in cold blood.

284 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:20:41am

re: #278 SanFranciscoZionist

Christ. Do I even want a link? Yeah. I want a link.

Image: off-cartoon3.jpg

285 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:21:04am

re: #279 MandyManners

Wasn’t Andropov the chief Commie then?

Program Here Program. Can’t tell your Commie bastards without a program.

286 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:21:33am

re: #274 Tarkus289

Gorbachev is still alive, as far as I know.

You’re right. Who the hell was he talking about?

287 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:21:40am

re: #282 shiek al beif salami

The dog didn’t push the guy out the window; the guy jumped when the dog licked his butt.

Dogs do that, you know.

That is why I am a cat/robot person.

288 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:21:44am

re: #280 Nevergiveup

Speaking of Horse Shit:

Service Animals - Pets Helping People

[Link: www.pawnation.com…]

Clean up on aisle 4!

“Ripley’s Believe it or Not” material.

289 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:21:59am

re: #276 Occasional Reader

Correct. I’m guessing that was a typo/”thinko” for Brezhnev.

That’s who I was thinking about.

290 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:24am

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

[Link: thebigstory.org…]

Damn, I just got out of the shower. Now I have to take another shower. My fault, I know…

291 Tarkus289  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:27am

re: #284 Walter L. Newton

ugh!

292 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:28am

re: #279 MandyManners

Wasn’t Andropov the chief Commie then?

Nope; Leo The Brez until 1982.

293 rightymouse  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:30am

re: #269 AuntAcid

Ya gotta wonder when the MSM is gonna wise up…’course, then they gotta admit they were wrong all along ‘bout the “O” man.

“O” is exactly what the liberals have needed as a wake up call to their crazy ideologies.

It’s like telling a child (or teenager) not to do certain things because it’s harmful and they do it anyway to prove parents wrong only to find out that the parents were right all along.

294 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:46am

re: #287 HAL2010

And it’s why I wear my pants when I hang out a window to smoke. If I smoked.

295 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:23:51am

re: #287 HAL2010

That is why I am a cat/robot person.

I wonder if you, like me, are looking forward to the great day when a robot that can clean cat litter trays goes on the market at an affordable price?

296 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:24:12am

re: #285 Nevergiveup

Program Here Program. Can’t tell your Commie bastards without a program.

Oh yes. The Chairman of the year period.

297 alegrias  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:24:29am

re: #283 alegrias

OT

Remember all those mystery reporters reporting from inside the jihadists’ bosom?

America hating author Hala Jaber is reported as doing her “work” in yesterday’s WashPost book review by Carolyn See:

“When the [Al Qaeda in Iraq] insurgency heated up and the Americans were preparing to storm Fallujah, she asked to be embedded with the insurgents and spent a harrowing night COOKING FOR THEM as they broke their Ramadan fast….”

This creep is lauded for her “award-winning journalistic work” aiding & abetting people who murdered Americans and innocent Iraqis in cold blood.

* * *ADDENDUM

Hala Jaber the America hater lauded by the WashPost is a lebanese moslima married to English press photographer Steve Bent who took pictures of wounded Iraqi children broadcast around the world—children wounded by America, by George Bush & Dick Cheney of course.

298 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:25:38am

re: #294 shiek al beif salami

And it’s why I wear my pants when I hang out a window to smoke. If I smoked.

If it was warm, would you be wearing shorts?

re: #295 Jimmah

I wonder if you, like me, are looking forward to the great day when a robot that can clean cat litter trays goes on the market at an affordable price?

I am looking forward to the day when cats and robots have merged into robotcats with laserbeams on their heads.

299 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:26:55am

re: #293 rightymouse

“O” is exactly what the liberals have needed as a wake up call to their crazy ideologies.

It’s like telling a child (or teenager) not to do certain things because it’s harmful and they do it anyway to prove parents wrong only to find out that the parents were right all along.

And the implications for national harm are astronomically greater.

300 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:27:17am

re: #298 HAL2010

I am looking forward to the day when cats and robots have merged into robotcats with laserbeams on their heads.

The evolutionary pinnacle for Cats.

301 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:27:38am

I had a ‘lemmiwinks’ related sleep paralysis nightmare last night. Details on request.re: #298 HAL2010

Heh! My cats have the laser eye capability already:

Image: cats.jpg

302 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:27:48am

More Janis, anyone?


Youtube Video
303 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:28:23am

re: #272 Walter L. Newton

I love Red Rocks as a venue…very scenic, comfortable, and tremendous acoustics…a perfect counterpart to Wolf Trap in Vienna Va….another truly awsome place

304 legalpad  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:29:06am

re: #302 MandyManners

love Janis

305 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:29:21am

re: #301 Jimmah

Two separate posts got merged there too. Thought my post formatting was getting better recently…oh well.

306 Tarkus289  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:29:21am

re: #302 MandyManners

Summertime, my favorite, from Janis.

307 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:29:25am

re: #300 jcm

The evolutionary pinnacle for Cats.

That looks more like singularity to me, than actual robokittens. But it is perhaps a minor detail.

308 HoosierHoops  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:29:29am

re: #254 MandyManners

Am I the only one who thinks Rall got a wedgie every day and his ass kicked for his lunch money when he was in school?

I’ve been in only a couple fights..One day on the school bus i was having mercy and chating with this total geek kids that was just wierd at school..But what the hell..I’m a social butterfly..I’ll talk to anyone..
He told me he wanted to join the KKK when he grew up..
I got off at his stop and beat the living hell out of him..I didn’t hurt him as bad as I could have. I just mostly slapped him and taunted his ass and embarrssed him and put him in a head lock and asked him about the KKK. All the bus stop.. I drew first blood..
I got in trouble..I didn’t care then..and I don’t care now..
The other fight was in 7th grade at the football game..I got my ass kicked..I’m a lover not a fighter

309 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:30:02am

re: #306 Tarkus289

Summertime, my favorite, from Janis.

Cry Baby

310 Buster  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:30:31am

The far left wackos can’t help but be disappointed. They put this guy up on a pedestal because they truly believed he was divine. As they discover he is simply a Chicago machine politician, and breaks promises like all politicians they are more disillusioned than most. They will stamp their feet, they will scream, they will demand that he remake the world into the paradise he promised, and they will forever be disapointed that won’t go all the way. But make no mistake, they will vote for him again in 2012

311 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:30:43am

re: #298 HAL2010

It Depends. A loin cloth, at least.

312 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:30:56am

re: #238 Occasional Reader

Actually, I have to agree that it’s a misnomer to say that Rall has gone “around to the right”. He is essentially complaining that Obama hasn’t turned out to be LEFT enough for him; too much like Bush, etc. The Cindy Sheehan/Code Pink crowd has the same complaint (as witnessed by their Bush-era-like rally in DC a couple months back); that hardly makes them “right-wingers”.

I’m not saying that Rall has become a right-winger. I’m saying he is joining them in calling for Obama’s resignation.

313 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:30:57am

Koskidz thrilled with right wing reaction…..
Obama drops Sotomayor’s Mentos into right wing’s Diet Coke


You have to give it to our president: he knew what he was doing when he picked Sonia Sotomayor. The formula was simple and utterly predictable:

* Select female Hispanic nominee.
* Unwrap name of female Hispanic nominee.
* Drop nominee’s name into hands of stupid white males.
* Give reaction a few seconds to develop.
* Witness explosion of rapidly expanding gas.
* Hilarity ensues.

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:31:36am

re: #310 Buster

The far left wackos can’t help but be disappointed. They put this guy up on a pedestal because they truly believed he was divine. As they discover he is simply a Chicago machine politician, and breaks promises like all politicians they are more disillusioned than most. They will stamp their feet, they will scream, they will demand that he remake the world into the paradise he promised, and they will forever be disapointed that won’t go all the way. But make no mistake, they will vote for him again in 2012

Doubt it. The hard left boycotted several Democratic candidates in a row. I think they’ll be back to Nader, or the Greens, or something, by the next election.

315 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:31:51am

Once upon a time ago, a retired NCO from the 3rd Special Forces group was publishing a low-circulation right wing political journal. I was one of the contributors.

He told me that we had to dehumanize the opposition when we wrote about them. I disagreed. I replied that our opponents, by what they chose to believe and how they chose to behave have already dehumanized themselves, all we as polemicists have to do is to observe them and accurately report what we see.

Ted Rall has dehumanized himself.

316 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:01am

re: #275 Jimmah

For sure. When I say I can see this meme taking off, I mean taking off within the ever decreasing circles of the far right.

Ah, got ya, that makes sense, but anyone from either side to call for a resignation now is just having a wet dream.

317 legalpad  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:21am

re: #310 Buster

But make no mistake, they will vote for him again in 2012

You’re right. Largely because the Republicans, or anybody else for that matter, have no vision.

318 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:30am

re: #301 Jimmah

I dont mean to scare you, but there are pictures of me with a red eye.

319 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:41am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

LOL

320 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:42am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

Clearly, being born a “stupid white male” is now the original sin.

321 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:44am

re: #303 albusteve

I love Red Rocks as a venue…very scenic, comfortable, and tremendous acoustics…a perfect counterpart to Wolf Trap in Vienna Va….another truly awsome place

I like it too, but this was the first time I was anywhere in the mountains, in basically a wilderness open space area, and I could see (well, hear) the effect it had on a large area of the woods and natural habitat. I’m not a tree hugger, but I did get a different “view” of things.

It was annoying, in my opinion. I was at 7500 feet and two mile up from the arena. I could see it from there. For a matter of fact, Mount Falcon was owned and named my John Walker, who had a home on Mount Falcon (ruins still there) and he was building a summer home for presidents there (ruins still there) and he built Red Rocks arena.

322 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:53am

re: #312 Charles

I’m not saying that Rall has become a right-winger. I’m saying he is joining them in calling for Obama’s resignation.

As a right winger can I tell Ted Rall to shove off?

323 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:32:55am

re: #316 avanti

Ah, got ya, that makes sense, but anyone from either side to call for a resignation now is just having a wet dream.

Not that there is anything wrong with wet dreams?

324 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:33:06am

re: #306 Tarkus289

Summertime, my favorite, from Janis.

As you wish.

Youtube Video
325 wiffersnapper  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:33:26am

Ted Rall is up there with Alex Jones of people I really don’t like.

326 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:33:59am

re: #312 Charles

I’m not saying that Rall has become a right-winger. I’m saying he is joining them in calling for Obama’s resignation.

I just don’t agree with the underlying premise that calling for Obama to resign is, of necessity, a “right”-wing position. The ultra-hard left hates any US President, and made no exception for Obama from the very beginning.

327 wrenchwench  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:34:22am

re: #313 Killgore Trout

*Drop nominee’s name into hands of stupid white males.

The koskidz are so narrow and bigoted. There were stupid people of both genders and several colors involved.

328 DEZes  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:34:48am

re: #318 HAL2010

I dont mean to scare you, but there are pictures of me with a red eye.

Like this

329 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:34:53am

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

330 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:08am

re: #318 HAL2010

I dont mean to scare you, but there are pictures of me with a red eye.

I know to jam the pod bay door open……….

331 lostlakehiker  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:08am

re: #158 Charles

There are a LOT of right-wing blogs calling for Obama to resign.

This is just deranged. Calls to resign are meaningful only when they come from the core of one’s own party. Barry Goldwater went to Nixon and explained to him how things stood. With LBJ, I can’t name names but there must have been some august senators whispering sweet dooms and glooms in his ear.

For Obama’s resignation to be even in the air, he’d have to have approval ratings in the 20’s, and some very bad decisions that he owned, decisions that worked out very badly, coming home to roost. And then, it would take the voices of several senior democrats—-senators, governors, and the like, to get the ball rolling.

Republicans shouldn’t hold their breath, and most definitely shouldn’t hope. The kinds of bad decisions that would be involved would be the sort that hurt the nation, not just the reputation of the administration. Think 30% inflation, a military Dunkirk, the loss of a city to Nork nukes, Iranian nukes, or one of the above but attributed to terrorists.

Our part, for now, must be that of the loyal opposition: we hope your administration succeeds. We hope its policies save the economy and keep external threats at bay. When our considered judgment is that this or that aspect of the overall administration plan is so counterproductive that the democrats wouldn’t adapt it if only they saw the train wreck coming, then it will be our duty to warn them and try to save them from that train wreck, and save their reputation, because the train wreck would mess up the U.S. and that counts for more than the joys of Schadenfreude when the smashup comes.

332 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:17am

re: #320 shiek al beif salami

Clearly, being born a “stupid white male” is now the original sin.

Especially if you are a superior decision making Latina.

333 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:18am

re: #324 MandyManners

I’m partial to Get it While You Can….

Youtube Video

‘Cause your gonna need it

334 Tarkus289  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:37am

re: #324 MandyManners

Thank you, I know I could have gone there myself, but this is like a gift.

335 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:42am

re: #282 shiek al beif salami

I know, I was being a little ‘rhetorically effusive’ with the facts since it was an entertainment piece.

I’m pretty sure it was a staged video. The dog doesn’t need to lick: the big wet nose is enough to get your attention.

336 gtrs  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:50am

do we have any hate mail yet? they are always so MUCH fun………

337 jcm  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:35:50am

re: #329 Charles

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

Someone brewed a pot of decaf in the regular pot.

338 The Other Les  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:36:00am

re: #326 Occasional Reader

I just don’t agree with the underlying premise that calling for Obama to resign is, of necessity, a “right”-wing position. The ultra-hard left hates any US President, and made no exception for Obama from the very beginning.

The hard left hates any human being, period.

339 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:36:15am

re: #303 albusteve

I love Red Rocks as a venue…very scenic, comfortable, and tremendous acoustics…a perfect counterpart to Wolf Trap in Vienna Va….another truly awsome place

Good reminder for me; I haven’t been to any events at Wolf Trap in a while.

(The only bad thing about it is the traffic.)

340 Nevergiveup  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:36:18am

re: #329 Charles

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

What?

341 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:36:34am

re: #329 Charles

The literals are ruining this country!

342 Jimmah  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:36:58am

re: #318 HAL2010

I dont mean to scare you, but there are pictures of me with a red eye.

[Retreats to sound proof booth] ;-)

343 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:37:01am

re: #321 Walter L. Newton

I like it too, but this was the first time I was anywhere in the mountains, in basically a wilderness open space area, and I could see (well, hear) the effect it had on a large area of the woods and natural habitat. I’m not a tree hugger, but I did get a different “view” of things.

It was annoying, in my opinion. I was at 7500 feet and two mile up from the arena. I could see it from there. For a matter of fact, Mount Falcon was owned and named my John Walker, who had a home on Mount Falcon (ruins still there) and he was building a summer home for presidents there (ruins still there) and he built Red Rocks arena.

I read your link and plan to persue the construction of the place…it is very unique…and indeed humans can be annoying, at least they don’t race stock cars up there

344 debutaunt  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:37:32am

re: #341 BigPapa

The literals are ruining this country!

Subtlety is totally wasted on them.

345 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:37:42am

re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist

Doubt it. The hard left boycotted several Democratic candidates in a row. I think they’ll be back to Nader, or the Greens, or something, by the next election.

The hard left you are describing are about as rare as the far right voters and they’ll just have to deal with reality.

346 razorbacker  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:37:55am

We’ve got this housecat, Big Boy. Now BB isn’t ever going to be mistaken for a feline Einstein, but he gets by on a sweet disposition.

He likes to sleep indoors at night, but loves to roam the property during daylight hours. He’ll go out when we wake up at 4:30, come in for a snack at six when the wife leaves, and then go out again when I go out.

But he has learned that if the wife steps naked onto the back deck, she’s going to sit in that big ol’ bubbly pot of water for a while and then go back in. So if he sees her naked on the deck, he comes running as hard as possible for the house. He’s figured out that he can come in, eat a bite or two, get a drink of water, go to the litter box, and then sit in front of the door. In just a few moments she’ll come back in the door and he can go right back outside.

347 Charles Johnson  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:37:56am

re: #331 lostlakehiker

Our part, for now, must be that of the loyal opposition: we hope your administration succeeds. We hope its policies save the economy and keep external threats at bay. When our considered judgment is that this or that aspect of the overall administration plan is so counterproductive that the democrats wouldn’t adapt it if only they saw the train wreck coming, then it will be our duty to warn them and try to save them from that train wreck, and save their reputation, because the train wreck would mess up the U.S. and that counts for more than the joys of Schadenfreude when the smashup comes.

RINO!

348 solomonpanting  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:38:20am

re: #302 MandyManners


Down on Me

Reminds me of a song by Kacey Jones

349 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:38:30am

re: #320 shiek al beif salami

Clearly, being born a “stupid white male” is now the original sin.

I was definitely born a stupid white male. For one thing, I was completely illiterate. Hell, I couldn’t even feed myself at the time.

350 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:39:03am

re: #345 avanti

The hard left you are describing are about as rare as the far right voters and they’ll just have to deal with reality.

Well, yes, they are. But I don’t think they’ve ever had to deal with reality.

351 wrenchwench  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:39:18am

re: #347 Charles

RINO!

Is that snark?

/

352 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:39:27am

re: #330 jcm

I know to jam the pod bay door open……….

Raspberry?!

Only one man would DARE use raspberry..

353 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:39:29am

Down in New Orleans.

Youtube Video
354 chicagodudewhotrades  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:39:49am

I just read this on the RCP site:

[Link: www.latimes.com…]

Nutshell: writer is asking for anti-trust exemptions for newspapers so they can make money. If I had the time, it would be interesting to see where he and the LAT comes down on antitrust rules for other industries in the past…… I love how that ALL newspapers think they are so important they need rules changes for themselves

355 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:40:33am

re: #277 Walter L. Newton

Ted Rall is not exactly some unknown little fish, he is rather well read (and liked) by the far left (The Nation sort of people). This is not a small issue.

Whoa, I have to quibble with you there…I’m far left by your standards, and I find the suggestion that The Nation is “far left” to be laughable. And I never heard of TR until today, despite the fact that I spend loads of time in the liberal blogosphere.

When i checked him out—-well, dude looks like a loony, to paraphrase Aerosmith.

356 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:40:47am

re: #335 BigPapa

I heard the variation of the story when I was a kid.

A kid shows up late for school and teacher demands an explanation. Kid says: “Pa heard a commotion in the chicken coop last night. Went out in night shirt and with shotgun in-hand to see what was happening. Dog followed. Pa bent over to look in hen-house door. Dog licked. We spent the rest of the night cleaning chickens.”

357 SonOfLiberty  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:40:51am

re: #329 Charles

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

Everyone knows the internet is SRS BZNZ!

358 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:41:06am

re: #343 albusteve

I read your link and plan to persue the construction of the place…it is very unique…and indeed humans can be annoying, at least they don’t race stock cars up there

Well, they do on Pikes Peak Highway, but it’s only once a year, and it’s a supervised race and the park service makes sure that the wilderness setting is kept well taken care of.

I’ve been to the Pikes Peak Hill Climb, it’s a blast, and that’s coming from someone who really doesn’t care a whit about car racing. But standing right alongside a windy dirt road, having race cars whiz past you at up to 80 miles an hour, and you are 6 feet away (and sometime you have to move out of the way if they take a curve wide), well, that’s just a rush like none I’ve had.

Try it.

359 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:41:12am

re: #349 Occasional Reader

I was definitely born a stupid white male. For one thing, I was completely illiterate. Hell, I couldn’t even feed myself at the time.

I bet you were leaky, too.

360 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:41:41am

re: #339 Occasional Reader

Good reminder for me; I haven’t been to any events at Wolf Trap in a while.

(The only bad thing about it is the traffic.)

off yer butt and support the arts!….last year after a Little Feat/subdudes show I was backstage and down in the dressing rooms etc….wow!…I’ve been backstage at alot of gigs but that was really impressive…and the Barns are so much fun back in the hollow….a great national treasure

361 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:41:47am

I’m ping-ponging here ‘cause The Kid and his friend are battling each other on their lap-tops and I’m the ref. bbiab

362 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:15am

re: #350 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, yes, they are. But I don’t think they’ve ever had to deal with reality.

They did, they did not much care for Clinton either.

363 haakondahl  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:23am

re: #329 Charles

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

I think that with the implosion of the Republican Party (as an organized entity with ideas, plans, and competence), we’re a bit more skittish about which kooks we get lumped in with these days. Precisely because a sickening amount of people on the right have become *less* selective.
Call it being gun-shy, I suppose, but I was relieved to see your #312.

364 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:27am
Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign …

Running this through my Decoder Ring several times produced the following:

I have begun to detect a distinictive taste of Kook-Aid in my mouth,
… and a part of someone else’s anatomy up my ….

/oh, th’ HORROR of it — poor little baby!

365 abolitionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:53am

re: #182 Tatterdemalian

“Wraps around.” Damn, I love it when computer jagon enters mainstream usage. I wonder if anyone even remembers who invented that term, and why it was called “wrapping around” instead of, say, “rolling over” or “edge jumping.”

I think the computer jargon reference is to circular number lines, ie, a consequence of using a finite number of bits for a binary counter. With 8bits for example, you can represent integers in [0,255], or in [-128,+127], as there are only 256 ways to arrange 8bits.

Charles’ answer in #185 about rotate-right or rotate-left manipulations of bits within a register may be correct (or not), but that’s a different idea.

I’ve no idea who invented the term.

366 Salamantis  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:54am

re: #329 Charles

I don’t remember ever having to explain these kinds of snarky comments before. Is there an epidemic of literalism going around or something?

The Young Earth Creationist Biblical Literalist mindset must be contagious; it seems to be spreading to other topics and issues…;~)

/damn those memetic mind viruses!

367 shiek al beif salami  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:42:55am

re: #349 Occasional Reader

Me too. And I couldn’t walk or wipe my own bottom. But I think it was from inexperience, not stupidity.

368 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:43:05am

re: #355 iceweasel

Whoa, I have to quibble with you there…I’m far left by your standards, and I find the suggestion that The Nation is “far left” to be laughable. And I never heard of TR until today, despite the fact that I spend loads of time in the liberal blogosphere.

When i checked him out—-well, dude looks like a loony, to paraphrase Aerosmith.

If to you, “The Nation” is somehow “centrist”, that says a lot about you.

And yes, Rall is fairly well known. His wretched cartoons have been published regularly, in, e.g., the Village Voice, as well as the Washington City Paper and a number of other weekly urban hipster papers.

369 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:43:06am

re: #355 iceweasel

Whoa, I have to quibble with you there…I’m far left by your standards, and I find the suggestion that The Nation is “far left” to be laughable. And I never heard of TR until today, despite the fact that I spend loads of time in the liberal blogosphere.

When i checked him out—-well, dude looks like a loony, to paraphrase Aerosmith.

I’m familiar with Rall from local free tabloids. (I still pick up the San Francisco Weekly because I can read Dan Savage’s column in it.)

But you, and avanti, bring up an important point, which is the long ideological stretch from, well, hardcore Maoists, straight through to moderate Democrats, all of which sometimes gets rolled into ‘liberal’, or ‘left’. I’m not always sure who people here are talking about.

370 Buster  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:43:29am

re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist

Good point. I never thought so many conservatives would stay home last time, but they did.

371 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:43:40am

re: #353 MandyManners

ahhh…really good one

372 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:43:43am

re: #355 iceweasel

Whoa, I have to quibble with you there…I’m far left by your standards, and I find the suggestion that The Nation is “far left” to be laughable. And I never heard of TR until today, despite the fact that I spend loads of time in the liberal blogosphere.

When i checked him out—-well, dude looks like a loony, to paraphrase Aerosmith.

I’m in the entertainment business, maybe I hang with a better, “leftier” brand of liberal than you do. We have the best lefty’s in the world. :)

Ted Rall is a household name with some of the lefty’s I know.

373 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:44:17am

re: #362 avanti

They did, they did not much care for Clinton either.

True enough. Still don’t.

374 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:44:29am

re: #364 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For the record “Kook-Aid” was intentional.

375 legalpad  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:44:35am

re: #344 debutaunt

Subtlety is totally wasted on them.

Yes, we get it. Whoopee, how clever. Is that what you need to hear?
(This is not meant in a hostile sense. If you could hear my tone of voice, you’d realize that.)

376 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:44:48am

re: #359 MandyManners

I bet you were leaky, too.

Yep. And when I was about one year old, I hit a waitress on the head with a bottle.

Really. (So I’m told.)

She was apparently getting all cootchy-coo with me; I got annoyed, picked up my bottle by the nipple, and bopped her on the head. No damage done, fortunately.

377 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:45:02am

re: #368 Occasional Reader

If to you, “The Nation” is somehow “centrist”, that says a lot about you.

And yes, Rall is fairly well known. His wretched cartoons have been published regularly, in, e.g., the Village Voice, as well as the Washington City Paper and a number of other weekly urban hipster papers.

Ding, ding, ding… (and I thought I was crazy maybe), thanks for the reality check, I needed that after her post.

378 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:45:40am

re: #360 albusteve

off yer butt and support the arts!….last year after a Little Feat/subdudes show I was backstage and down in the dressing rooms etc….wow!…I’ve been backstage at alot of gigs but that was really impressive…and the Barns are so much fun back in the hollow….a great national treasure

Yeah, I know, I know… I need to renew my Kennedy Center membership, too.

379 Walter L. Newton  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:45:46am

BBIAB - got to get ready for work, dive into liberal heaven.

380 haakondahl  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:46:01am

re: #355 iceweasel

Whoa, I have to quibble with you there…I’m far left by your standards, and I find the suggestion that The Nation is “far left” to be laughable. And I never heard of TR until today, despite the fact that I spend loads of time in the liberal blogosphere.

When i checked him out—-well, dude looks like a loony, to paraphrase Aerosmith.

Rall is foremost in the pantheon of sphincters.

And earlier, I was not making fun of you—I was disagreeing with you. I was making fun of the fellow in question.

381 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:46:26am

re: #358 Walter L. Newton

Well, they do on Pikes Peak Highway, but it’s only once a year, and it’s a supervised race and the park service makes sure that the wilderness setting is kept well taken care of.

I’ve been to the Pikes Peak Hill Climb, it’s a blast, and that’s coming from someone who really doesn’t care a whit about car racing. But standing right alongside a windy dirt road, having race cars whiz past you at up to 80 miles an hour, and you are 6 feet away (and sometime you have to move out of the way if they take a curve wide), well, that’s just a rush like none I’ve had.

Try it.

been there…I sorta surprised you got my hint….smart guy eh?…the Hillclimb is a spectacle that anyone would get a hoot out of think

382 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:46:44am

re: #366 Salamantis

The Young Earth Creationist Biblical Literalist mindset must be contagious; it seems to be spreading to other topics and issues…;~)

/damn those memetic mind viruses!

It only a matter of time before they go after the Therory of Gravity with Intelligent Falling.

383 Salamantis  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:47:11am

re: #376 Occasional Reader

Yep. And when I was about one year old, I hit a waitress on the head with a bottle.

Really. (So I’m told.)

She was apparently getting all cootchy-coo with me; I got annoyed, picked up my bottle by the nipple, and bopped her on the head. No damage done, fortunately.

I’d have picked up her nipple and bopped it on my head instead. At least, I like to think that’s what I would have done…;~)

384 razorbacker  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:47:59am

I was talking to my Dad last night. Yeah, he has been dead since ‘90. So what. I lived in the man’s house for almost seventeen years. I know how he thinks, and now when we talk we don’t argue near a much as we used to.

Anyway, I asked Dad, “What do you think the economy is going to do?”

“Son, when folks figure out that you owe more money than you can ever repay, they won’t lend you any more money.”

Even dead, my ignorant redneck of a pater knows more economics than the Obamanation.

385 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:48:19am

re: #383 Salamantis

I’d have picked up her nipple and bopped it on my head instead. At least, I like to think that’s what I would have done…;~)

I wasn’t quite THAT “advanced” for my age… but I did later develop a crush on my kindergarten teacher. (I only dimly remember her, but my Dad assures me I had very good taste.)

386 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:48:55am

RoP in Pakistan…..
Taliban recruits teenage suicide bombers for revenge attacks

Taliban spokesmen said the attacks inside Pakistan’s main cities were revenge for the army’s assault.

Propaganda films obtained by The Sunday Telegraph in Peshawar, the capital of North West Frontier Province, show boys of 14 or 15 recording farewell messages before climbing into vehicles filled with explosives.

387 avanti  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:48:59am

re: #369 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m familiar with Rall from local free tabloids. (I still pick up the San Francisco Weekly because I can read Dan Savage’s column in it.)

But you, and avanti, bring up an important point, which is the long ideological stretch from, well, hardcore Maoists, straight through to moderate Democrats, all of which sometimes gets rolled into ‘liberal’, or ‘left’. I’m not always sure who people here are talking about.

You nailed it. The left is no more monolithic then the right, we have loony extremes just like the right. I noticed it when I first started posting here, I was called a Coomie for the first time I can recall, and some could not believe anyone in the military could be a leftie. I leaned that not everyone on the right was a knuckle dragging fascist, so we’re even now. :)

388 MandyManners  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:49:27am

re: #376 Occasional Reader

Yep. And when I was about one year old, I hit a waitress on the head with a bottle.
Really. (So I’m told.)

She was apparently getting all cootchy-coo with me; I got annoyed, picked up my bottle by the nipple, and bopped her on the head. No damage done, fortunately.

Gonna’ refrain.

389 HAL2010  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:49:28am

re: #382 Idle Drifter

It only a matter of time before they go after the Therory of Gravity with Intelligent Falling.

I giveth:
The Flat Earth Society on Gravity

390 Idle Drifter  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:50:03am

re: #382 Idle Drifter

Therory => Theory PIMF

391 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:50:44am

re: #349 Occasional Reader

I was definitely born a stupid white male. For one thing, I was completely illiterate. Hell, I couldn’t even feed myself at the time.

i was born a poor black child….
/steve martin, the jerk

I’m always struck by how comedians in the 70’s and 80’s were able to have a more honest discourse on race. Look at Eddie Murphy on SNL with Mr Robinson’s Neighbourhood, or the famous Richard Pryor/Chevy Chase sketch where a racist white employer gives a black applicant a word association test.

Those skits were all bitingly funny and offered real social criticisms, and many of them couldn’t be made now.

392 haakondahl  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:51:03am

re: #385 Occasional Reader

I wasn’t quite THAT “advanced” for my age… but I did later develop a crush on my kindergarten teacher. (I only dimly remember her, but my Dad assures me I had very good taste.)

Magic 8-Ball says:

“You were picking it up from him”

393 albusteve  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:51:45am

re: #378 Occasional Reader

btw…DC has the worst traffic I have ever driven in…by far…not just alot of it but some mean assed, impatient people as well…you mess up you pay for it

394 haakondahl  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:52:37am

re: #391 iceweasel

i was born a poor black child….
/steve martin, the jerk

I’m always struck by how comedians in the 70’s and 80’s were able to have a more honest discourse on race. Look at Eddie Murphy on SNL with Mr Robinson’s Neighbourhood, or the famous Richard Pryor/Chevy Chase sketch where a racist white employer gives a black applicant a word association test.

Those skits were all bitingly funny and offered real social criticisms, and many of them couldn’t be made now.

“Kill Whitey!”

395 Tatterdemalian  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:52:54am

re: #329 Charles

YABT by Biblical literalists. The left wingers try to change the definitions of words until they can pretend everything you’ve said is actually a code that proves you are evil and need to be stopped for the greater good, while the right wingers try to literalize every figure of speech so they can pretend you’re a raving madman who needs to be stopped before you kill someone’s family.

396 Kronocide  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:54:46am

re: #382 Idle Drifter

That’s brilliant.

397 Paul  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:56:15am

Poor Ted, he wanted a Cynthia McKinney but got a Chicago pol instead.
Ted’s crazier than a shit house rat, but even a shit house rat can occasionally be right—-Obama should resign, we could then enjoy three years and eight months of Joe Biden pratfalls.

398 SixDegrees  Sat, May 30, 2009 11:58:09am

re: #382 Idle Drifter

It only a matter of time before they go after the Therory of Gravity with Intelligent Falling.

You’re laughing now. But they actually are opposed to all science, not just biology. They view the scientific method itself as an attack on religion, as it attempts to explain the physical world and it’s workings without imposing a direct reliance on God at every single step.

They are already expanding their colossal ignorance beyond evolution to include the cosmological distance ladder, the age of stars and galaxies, planets orbiting stars other than the sun and other topics. Theirs is a profound, militant ignorance that is beyond the reach of logic or rational thought, because they exclude such tools on the grounds that they abet Satan.

399 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:00:15pm

re: #391 iceweasel

, or the famous Richard Pryor/Chevy Chase sketch where a racist white employer gives a black applicant a word association test.
.

I think that was Garrett Morris, not Richard Pryor. And, come to think of it, was it Chevy Chase, or Dan Akroyd?

The closest modern equivalent to what you’re talking about would be, off the top of my head, Dave Chappelle.

400 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:01:07pm

re: #393 albusteve

btw…DC has the worst traffic I have ever driven in…by far…not just alot of it but some mean assed, impatient people as well…you mess up you pay for it

Bah. Bad as DC traffic is, it’s a paradise compared to practically any Latin American capital.

401 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:01:23pm

re: #372 Walter L. Newton

I’m in the entertainment business, maybe I hang with a better, “leftier” brand of liberal than you do. We have the best lefty’s in the world. :)

Ted Rall is a household name with some of the lefty’s I know.

Wow, he absolutely isn’t a household name at all for people like me, where I am. :)

I’m a lefty urban academic; we love Maus and we read Tom Tomorrow. TR looks like a total loon—and I have no problem asserting that he can’t be a big deal for the netroots— the respectable liberal progressive blogosphere— or I’d know him.

(in other words, maybe he’s linked loads on kos or DU or HuffPo comments, but those places —esp the comments— are the lefty version of Free Republic. A fever swamp filled with loons)

402 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:02:17pm

re: #394 haakondahl

“Kill Whitey!”

I was JUST thinking of that skit! “Kill the white people….”

It’s BRILLIANT.

403 wrenchwench  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:03:07pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

I think that was Garrett Morris, not Richard Pryor. And, come to think of it, was it Chevy Chase, or Dan Akroyd?

And the quote would be “Dead honkey,” not “Kill whitey.” Maybe two skits?

404 Paul  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:04:08pm

re: #399 Occasional Reader

I think that was Garrett Morris, not Richard Pryor. And, come to think of it, was it Chevy Chase, or Dan Akroyd?

The closest modern equivalent to what you’re talking about would be, off the top of my head, Dave Chappelle.

No, It was definitely Chase and Pryor. After 30+ years, I still remember that sketch.

405 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:12pm

re: #402 iceweasel

I was JUST thinking of that skit! “Kill the white people….”

It’s BRILLIANT.

Now that one, I remember clearly; Eddie Murphy as a reggae musician.

“I thought they were gonna do ‘Day-oh!’”, exclaims the venue manager played by Tim… whatsisname.

406 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:08:30pm

re: #368 Occasional Reader

If to you, “The Nation” is somehow “centrist”, that says a lot about you.

And yes, Rall is fairly well known. His wretched cartoons have been published regularly, in, e.g., the Village Voice, as well as the Washington City Paper and a number of other weekly urban hipster papers.

I’m not saying the Nation is centrist at all— just that it’s by no means “far left’
I think it sucks, frankly.

407 Occasional Reader  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:09:55pm

re: #404 Paul

No, It was definitely Chase and Pryor. After 30+ years, I still remember that sketch.

No way, the skit is seared, seared into my memory… I remember watching it on my iPhone while stationed on the border in Laos, while the Vietcong celebrated Christmas nearby…

408 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:11:02pm

re: #405 Occasional Reader

Now that one, I remember clearly; Eddie Murphy as a reggae musician.

“I thought they were gonna do ‘Day-oh!’”, exclaims the venue manager played by Tim… whatsisname.

yes! I just found the video— i LOVE this.

Google Video
409 haakondahl  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:11:13pm

re: #403 wrenchwench

And the quote would be “Dead honkey,” not “Kill whitey.” Maybe two skits?

“Dead Honkey” was Pryor/Chase, while “Kill Whitey” was Morse and somebody else.
I believe that “Kill Whitey” was a response to an appalling performance at some local talent/variety show where this otherwise sweet-seeming old lady went off halfway through her song on some godawful racist rant, without missing a beat.

410 Paul  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:13:13pm

O.K. Here’s the SNL skit, it was Chase and Pryor.


FunnyOrDie Video
411 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:14:09pm

re: #404 Paul

No, It was definitely Chase and Pryor. After 30+ years, I still remember that sketch.

The job interview sketch is definitely Chase and Pryor, and the punch line is Pryor saying “DEAD honkey!” — sadly, a lot of those videos are impossible to find online now.

412 pingjockey  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:16:50pm

Good afternoon. Any of you kids under 45 arguing about SNL when it was good need to ask someone a little older!
Job interview = Chase/Pryor
Garrett Morris = prison skit, aka I’m gonna get a shotgun and kill whitey.
Frakkin’ kids.

413 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:17:28pm

re: #400 Occasional Reader

Bah. Bad as DC traffic is, it’s a paradise compared to practically any Latin American capital.

And also compared to Atlanta rush hour traffic. *shudder*

414 pingjockey  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:18:04pm

Now I’m gonna go bitch about obambi and helicopters!

415 iceweasel  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:19:13pm

re: #412 pingjockey

Good afternoon. Any of you kids under 45 arguing about SNL when it was good need to ask someone a little older!
Job interview = Chase/Pryor
Garrett Morris = prison skit, aka I’m gonna get a shotgun and kill whitey.
Frakkin’ kids.

Tell us again about the good old days with Bass-o-matic, pa!

love,
iceweasel, that ignorant slut

416 TedStriker  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:33:27pm

re: #190 shiek al beif salami

Imagine if Rall was a Nork and wrote his screed about Dear Leader.

He and his entire family would shortly become fertilizer…

417 Taqyia2Me  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:38:38pm

re: #394 haakondahl

“Kill Whitey!”

“You mean I’m going to stay this color?!?”

418 poteen  Sat, May 30, 2009 12:50:25pm

re: #380 haakondahl

“Rall is foremost in the pantheon of sphincters”

Best of the day. Gotta save that one.

419 SixDegrees  Sat, May 30, 2009 1:01:05pm

Rall isn’t going to like this, either. Prepare for more exploding heads on the Left.

420 bogart  Sat, May 30, 2009 3:49:48pm

Re: 152

My compliments on a very concise analysis of the realities of the far left!
Now what do with the FarrrrrrLeft who espouse following the ignorance of past political demigods whose only claim to fame was blindly following their puppet masters. As we can all see, the truly dangerous ones are those who although they lack any practical experience in worldly affairs believe that they have crucial answers to age old problems just becausethey read a few books.

421 Macker  Sat, May 30, 2009 5:34:37pm

I’ll bet Rall’s asshole hurts. Real bad.

422 EaterOfFood  Sat, May 30, 2009 5:53:45pm

re: #4 BigPapa

I can’t believe newspapers post his loony screeds. They guy is a kook.

This is part of why so many of them are going under.

423 tyree  Sat, May 30, 2009 6:19:48pm

So Ted Rall is getting so close to the fer right that he can almost touch them.

I have said for decades that politics is like a circle with a line down the center. At the top are a multitude of people striving to do good, Republican and Democrat, divided by the line and not to far apart, facing each other and talking. As you get to the far right and the far left, you get further from that line. As you keep going the line crosses the bottom of the circle. Here you find Ted Rall and the far right crowd, facing away from each other and screaming to be heard at the top of the circle. If they would just look over their shoulder, they would see how close the other side is.

Ted Rall is at the bottom of that circle of politics, and shame on all those who thought he belonged among the good people at the top.

424 tyree  Sat, May 30, 2009 6:23:41pm

Heh, Saturday Night Live when it was funny.

425 Zimriel  Sat, May 30, 2009 6:41:46pm

re: #382 Idle Drifter

It only a matter of time before they go after the Therory of Gravity with Intelligent Falling.

That would be Prime Mover Theory…

426 formercorpsman  Sat, May 30, 2009 9:22:07pm
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