The Door Opens - Update: The Door Closes

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The glimmering door into the caverns of Lizardia has swung open for a limited time. The ‘Register’ link is at the top of the left sidebar.

Read all the rules before you register, and commit them to memory. The short version:

  • Don’t register with a proxy.
  • Don’t register with a throwaway email address.
  • Don’t register more than one account at a time.
  • Don’t be a jerk.
  • Don’t be a troll.
  • Don’t be a sock puppet. Stinky hates sock puppets. He will find you.
  • If you’re registering just to post a dramatic “goodbye cruel world” comment full of vitriol and drool, don’t waste your time. Nobody’s going to read it. It will be immediately deleted and your account will be blocked.
  • Do play nice.

And then everything will be groovy.

UPDATE at 10/2/09 6:58:08 pm:

The door has closed, with 80 hatchlings and 18 sock puppet attempts.

Jump to bottom

653 comments
1 Bob Dillon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:26:13pm

Welcome Hatchlings.

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:26:57pm

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF! If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story. Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

3 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:28:48pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Were' getting some hits from some legal blog. We could always use some more legal lizards.

4 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:30:04pm

I remember a “goodbye cruel world” cartoon -- an arm coming up out of a toilet bowl, the hand on the flush handle.

Do you provide the proper ... *cough* ... facilities for that, Charles?

5 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:30:36pm

Also some nice words from John Amato at Crooks and Liars...

I have to give LGF credit. As much as I've feuded with Charles Johnson in the past, he's shown a very cool switch and has exposed a lot of right wing insanity.
6 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:30:45pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Were' getting some hits from some legal blog. We could always use some more legal lizards.

Quite a few hits from that blog. It must be pretty popular (I hadn't heard of it before):

[Link: abovethelaw.com...]

7 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:31:40pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

Were' getting some hits from some legal blog. We could always use some more legal lizards.

Does that imply that some blogs are ILlegal?

/no, you do NOT need to give me your opinion! ... :D

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:32:55pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

Also some nice words from John Amato at Crooks and Liars...

John Cook at Gawker, on the other, keeps the smear going with a backhanded compliment: Sarah Palin's Ghostwriter Pals Around With Racists and Wackos - sarah palin - Gawker

As Charles Johnson—whose ongoing reformation from Muslim-hating wacko to right-wing apostate continues to puzzle and delight us...

9 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:32:59pm

Ah...finally! Been trying to register here for months. Every time Charles opened registration, I was in class.

10 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:33:20pm

anybody here enrolled in the Online Anger Management Classes?

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:33:32pm

What's the odds on socks this time? I'm betting for over ten.

12 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:33:58pm

re: #9 Dante41

Welcome!

13 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:34:55pm

re: #9 Dante41

Ah...finally! Been trying to register here for months. Every time Charles opened registration, I was in class.

Welcome. Love your books ;-)

14 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:35:18pm

re: #10 albusteve

anybody here enrolled in the Online Anger Management Classes?

I DON'T NEED NO ... ur ... uh ... *looks around* ... never mind

15 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:35:26pm

re: #3 Killgore Trout

I noticed that earlier. I think it's a little funny one link on a legal blog brings more hits than many of the right wing blogs ever brought to this site.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:35:28pm

Link spammer 'orfannkyl' just tried to register yet another sock puppet.

He must be watching obsessively.

17 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:35:45pm

OT...wait not yet..Welcome you new lizards!
We enjoy the richness of your input here...
I'm watching The movie Hackers tonight.. Love that movie..( OK Angela Jolie is fricking hot but besides that.)
Where are our young hackers from 1995? Come on now..Now a days kids have a issue with nslookups on the net..What the hell? Get off Facebook and grow the net with your young talent...
Get off your lazy social networking and hack us baby..We need you to grow..
/Am I in trouble? heheheh

18 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:36:16pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout
A

lso some nice words from John Amato at Crooks and Liars...


Just seeing those words used within the same sentence causes major cognitive dissonance spikes.

19 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:36:20pm

re: #17 HoosierHoops

I hope you've seen Sneakers! My favorite hacking movie of all time.

20 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:37:23pm

re: #11 EmmmieG
Registration used to be open so infrequently... the sock brigade may be taking advantage of the odds.

21 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:37:43pm

re: #12 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welcome!

Thanks! Good to be finally part of the last bastion of sane conservatism.

re: #13 Gearhead

Welcome. Love your books ;-)

Oh Hell. My reputation precedes me. ;-)

22 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:38:32pm

Another sock. 13 newbies, 2 socks.

23 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:38:54pm

re: #21 Dante41

Oh Hell. My reputation precedes me. ;-)

IIRC, Stinky needs the help of a good coal-shoveler on Level 7.

:D

24 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:40:38pm

16 newbies, 4 socks.

25 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:40:56pm

re: #23 pre-Boomer Marine brat

IIRC, Stinky needs the help of a good coal-shoveler on Level 7.

:D

Heh. You should talk to Minos about that.

26 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:41:08pm

re: #22 Charles

Another sock. 13 newbies, 2 socks.

If you have time to take your eye off the gunsight, what's the most original/innovative name for a sock that you've encountered?

27 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:41:22pm

HI! I'm EmmmieG, and I just misspelled my own name. I guess I was nervous. I'm so excited to be here at Little Green Footballs!

*Shepherd's crook starts to inch out*

and I would just love to be part of a pun thread, or a good riff on konspiracee sikology, and...

*Shepherd's crook ends monologue*

*Offstage*

It was worth a try...

28 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:41:33pm

re: #25 Dante41

Heh. You should talk to Minos about that.

I was just Charon the info.

29 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:41:42pm

The sock puppets are really trying hard tonight.

30 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:42:13pm

re: #6 Charles

Quite a few hits from that blog. It must be pretty popular (I hadn't heard of it before):

[Link: abovethelaw.com...]

It's kinda of like Gawker for the legal community. The writer is pretty clever. I've peeked in about a handful of times.

31 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:42:15pm

re: #24 Charles

16 newbies, 4 socks.

Oh, sock to newbie ratio is rising.

32 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:42:43pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

HI! I'm EmmmieG, and I just misspelled my own name. I guess I was nervous. I'm so excited to be here at Little Green Footballs!

*Shepherd's crook starts to inch out*

and I would just love to be part of a pun thread, or a good riff on konspiracee sikology, and...

*Shepherd's crook ends monologue*

*Offstage*

It was worth a try...

Who was that masked/misspelled stranger ... :D

33 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:43:18pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

To be clear, I'm making fun of me, not the newbies.

34 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:43:39pm

re: #28 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I was just Charon the info.

Heh...named a server that because the awful software being installed on it. We geeks god a chuckle out of the confusion of others over the name.

35 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:45:08pm

re: #24 Charles

16 newbies, 4 socks.

re: #33 EmmmieG

To be clear, I'm making fun of me, not the newbies.

I thought it was funny. My first comment got a resounding "Huh?" from the lizards.

36 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:45:12pm

re: #31 John Neverbend

Oh, sock to newbie ratio is rising.

SNR--signal to noise ratio. A measure of the quality of a reading compared to background noise. Also used as a measure of the quality of blog registrants here on LGF.

37 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:48:22pm

Welcome to LGF! Even though I'm still a newbie and learning(lurking too), I can promise you if you came here for the right reasons...you'll love it here.

38 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:48:22pm

re: #27 EmmmieG

/Get the net/

39 wiffersnapper  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:49:08pm

Welcome newbies. Here's my laundry, no starch please.

40 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:50:21pm

re: #34 BryanS

Heh...named a server that because the awful software being installed on it. We geeks god a chuckle out of the confusion of others over the name.

On a design project I worked on decades ago, the firmware guy named the input line to the uP circuit's watchdog timer "Dogfood" and the timer's output "Woof".

41 The Curmudgeon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:50:37pm

I slipped through an open door a couple of months ago. Am I still a newbie?

42 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:51:20pm

Welcome hatchlings!
Watch out for the egg shells.

43 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:51:59pm

re: #41 The Curmudgeon

I slipped through an open door a couple of months ago. Am I still a newbie?

Do you have money for beer?
If so, you still are.

44 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:53:21pm

24 newbies, 7 socks.

45 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:53:51pm

re: #44 Charles

24 newbies, 7 socks.

Holy SH*T!

46 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:54:42pm

re: #44 Charles

24 newbies, 7 socks.

SNR asymptotically approaching 0.3.

47 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:54:44pm

Raccoons raided my pond last night and ate all my water chestnuts. At least they didn't get any fish.

48 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:54:58pm

I should probably say a bit more about meself. Right now I'm a sophomore at the Texas Maritime Academy, studying for my Third Mate's License. I'm going to be doing my dream job, and getting paid quite handsomely is just a bonus. Seriously, a newly minted third mate gets $60K to $90K depending on where he or she works.

And you don't want to know how much an engineer makes...

49 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:55:07pm

They're really trying hard tonight.

50 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:55:10pm

Fox still has the Chicago bid story up on it's main page...the third or fourth story...I didn't see it as a big deal

51 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:55:31pm

Welcome to all non-sock puppet hatchlings!

52 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:55:55pm

re: #29 Charles

The sock puppets are really trying hard tonight.

But. But. They hate it so bad here...Yet they try with all their heart to get back in..Weird...And oh by the way LGF2.. You should win the award for the ugliest and most unreadable Blog on the whole Internet... You must be proud of your blog to keep on trying to return here...Quit fucking playing games and stick to your destiny on the net..You deserve your space in time..Stop trying to return here.. Trust me..Nobody really cares...
When we need a good laugh...We read you..Ya feeling me?

53 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:56:20pm

re: #37 beekiller

Welcome to LGF! Even though I'm still a newbie and learning(lurking too), I can promise you if you came here for the right reasons...you'll love it here.

Amen. Just got regged a week ago after lurking since the aftermath of the 9/12 march. My faith in American political discourse has been restored.

54 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:56:51pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

Raccoons raided my pond last night and ate all my water chestnuts. At least they didn't get any fish.

Leave the front door open in the wintertime. Maybe they'll come in and pull your chestnuts out of the foyer for you.

55 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:56:57pm

re: #52 HoosierHoops

lol

56 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:57:22pm

Hello, Lizards.
Been following LGF for a few weeks now. Love the blog. I'm an Argentine undergoing my graduate studies in the US (in History, if you wondered). Thanks for cracking open the door, Mr. Johnson.

57 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:57:27pm

re: #52 HoosierHoops

But. But. They hate it so bad here...Yet they try with all their heart to get back in..Weird...And oh by the way LGF2.. You should win the award for the ugliest and most unreadable Blog on the whole Internet... You must be proud of your blog to keep on trying to return here...Quit fucking playing games and stick to your destiny on the net..You deserve your space in time..Stop trying to return here.. Trust me..Nobody really cares...
When we need a good laugh...We read you..Ya feeling me?

That's not nice, HH. Accurate, funny, witty, but not nice. ;)

58 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:57:34pm

Man, have I got a great music video for a bit later.

59 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:58:16pm

Huh. I didn't realize Vdare's Peter Brimelow was on the front lines of the War on Christmas meme. From Time December 2008:

Before it became part of mainstream conservative punditry, the leading proponent of the War on Christmas was a former magazine writer and editor named Peter Brimelow. A virulent anti-immigration crusader whose views were considered extreme by mainstream conservative journals like National Review, Brimelow founded a website called VDare.com that soon was at the forefront of the fight to sanctify Christmas cheer. Beginning in 1999, Brimelow ran a competition to spotlight offenders in the War on Christmas. The inaugural villain was the Department of Housing and Urban Development, which earned the dubious honor for hosting a holiday party dubbed "A Celebration of Holiday Traditions." The following year, Amazon.com became a target of Brimelow's wrath for subjecting consumers to the nondenominational greeting "Happy Holidays!" (In 2003, VDare was classified as a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center for providing a platform for white nationalist viewpoints.)

60 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:58:16pm

re: #52 HoosierHoops

But. But. They hate it so bad here...Yet they try with all their heart to get back in..Weird...And oh by the way LGF2.. You should win the award for the ugliest and most unreadable Blog on the whole Internet... You must be proud of your blog to keep on trying to return here...Quit fucking playing games and stick to your destiny on the net..You deserve your space in time..Stop trying to return here.. Trust me..Nobody really cares...
When we need a good laugh...We read you..Ya feeling me?

they sure get a hell of alot of air time here

61 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:58:20pm

re: #53 bratwurst

Same here! :)

62 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:58:28pm

re: #56 mikhailtheplumber

Welcome!

63 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:58:45pm

re: #59 Sharmuta

Huh. I didn't realize Vdare's Peter Brimelow was on the front lines of the War on Christmas meme. From Time December 2008:

You mean Michelle Malkin's racist friend?

64 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:59:15pm

re: #58 Charles

No hints?

65 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:59:49pm

re: #64 beekiller

No hints?

If you like blues you'll love this.

66 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:59:51pm

Good evening LGF and welcome, newbies.

67 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:07pm

Yankees are falling apart against Tampa Bay. I hope this isn't a taste of what's going to happen in the postseason.

68 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:14pm

re: #63 Charles

You mean Michelle Malkin's racist friend?

That's the one!

69 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:27pm

re: #65 Charles

If you like blues you'll love this.

waiting on that

70 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:41pm

re: #50 albusteve

Fox still has the Chicago bid story up on it's main page...the third or fourth story...I didn't see it as a big deal

It's not really. It would have been a nice thing for the Chicago area economy but it's not really a big deal. Brazil could use the boost more than we could anyways.

71 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:42pm

re: #59 Sharmuta

Huh. I didn't realize Vdare's Peter Brimelow was on the front lines of the War on Christmas meme. From Time December 2008:

Yeesh, not that I'm surprised, but what's the problem with Happy Holidays? These folks need another hobby. Oh wait, they already have one :(

72 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:59pm

re: #65 Charles

I love almost everything. You got me hooked on Regina Spektor a while back mister.

73 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:01:53pm

re: #39 wiffersnapper

UUGGGHH! Hate laundry. Figured it out a few years ago...I made sure I had a larger supply of underwear (clean) than my hubby!!! He caved in and did laundry before I had to!

74 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:02:16pm

re: #9 Dante41

Ah...finally! Been trying to register here for months. Every time Charles opened registration, I was in class.

So now that you have no class, you sign up. Welcome.

76 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:03:02pm

re: #65 Charles

If you like blues you'll love this.

Oooo...sounds good.

77 researchok  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:03:05pm

re: #42 Floral Giraffe

Welcome hatchlings!
Watch out for the egg shells.

The evolving dinosaur egg shell.

78 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:04:07pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

It's not really. It would have been a nice thing for the Chicago area economy but it's not really a big deal. Brazil could use the boost more than we could anyways.

There's also the invariable tourist bomb and controversies surrounding Olympic events. It's gone from a world-wide fair competition of sport to just another political front, I believe. Sad.

And how bad are the sock puppets trying to get in if one of four new registrations are dummy accounts?

79 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:04:10pm

re: #9 Dante41

Ah...finally! Been trying to register here for months. Every time Charles opened registration, I was in class.

Welcome! Don't forget to post a YouTube video of you doing the snoopy dance, like all the newcomers.

80 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:04:12pm

re: #16 Charles

Link spammer 'orfannkyl' just tried to register yet another sock puppet.

He must be watching obsessively.

orSpannky him!

81 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:04:22pm

re: #75 Charles

RichardDawkins.net Forum View topic - Littlegreenfootballs

hehe Deeelish!

82 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:05:19pm

re: #74 CyanSnowHawk

So now that you have no class, you sign up. Welcome.

Well, it helps that there aren't any classes on Friday at 7 at night. ;-). But seriously. Being a cadet at a maritime academy has you in class for most of the week. I think the last time the door opened I was in Marine Cargo Ops class.

83 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:05:34pm

re: #71 marjoriemoon

Yeesh, not that I'm surprised, but what's the problem with Happy Holidays? These folks need another hobby. Oh wait, they already have one :(

Some people feel the need to promote a victimhood mentality for political reasons to Christians. A lot of them are the same folks who wish to promote a victimhood mentality to white Americans. Funny that with Peter Brimelow they happen to be one and the same, huh? Imagine my surprise.

(Actually- I was a bit surprised to learn this connection to religion with Brimelow in that I didn't expect to find it, but I'm not surprised by the connection in general)

84 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:05:48pm

re: #10 albusteve

anybody here enrolled in the Online Anger Management Classes?

Everybody who is registered, and stays that way, is by default.

85 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:05:59pm

"The Blues" by DaB

Youtube Video
86 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:06:19pm

I'd like to suggest David Hudson's Yigi Yigi
It's great music to hunt socks by.

87 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:07:19pm

re: #83 Sharmuta

Some people feel the need to promote a victimhood mentality for political reasons to Christians. A lot of them are the same folks who wish to promote a victimhood mentality to white Americans. Funny that with Peter Brimelow they happen to be one and the same, huh? Imagine my surprise.

(Actually- I was a bit surprised to learn this connection to religion with Brimelow in that I didn't expect to find it, but I'm not surprised by the connection in general)

To me, it goes along with his ideas of immigration. Separatist attitude. Us v. Them stuff.

88 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:08:04pm

re: #75 Charles

RichardDawkins.net Forum View topic - Littlegreenfootballs

I recently registered with the Dawkins site, as I wanted to see if they had any comments on Casey Luskin's cowpat of an article attacking Ardi.

89 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:08:09pm
90 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:08:32pm

re: #86 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'd like to suggest David Hudson's Yigi Yigi
It's great music to hunt socks by.

oops!
Sorry, that link isn't via the LGF store!

91 JRCMYP  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:08:48pm

I actually joined just the other day (I emailed Charles and asked nicely). But, I'll introduce myself:

I'm a 42-year old female, small business owner, wife, mother and left of center very normal person. In an earlier lifetime I was a historian. There is more, of course, but this is not a message board, it's a blog with comments.

92 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:08:49pm

re: #87 marjoriemoon

To me, it goes along with his ideas of immigration. Separatist attitude. Us v. Them stuff.

Which doesn't make sense in light of latino immigration- you would think they'd want to allow more Christians into the country. Gee- wonder why Vdare has a problem with Christian immigration. ///

93 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:09:26pm

re: #89 traderjoe9

That is NOT cool.

94 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:09:32pm
95 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:09:39pm

Good evening, everyone! Rookies included!

If you're in the high priority group for the H1N1 vaccine, it could pay to call your state health department. I called today to inquire about when they would be available, and was told that I could call the district office and make an appointment to get one. And I don't have to drive to the district office - I can get it done at any health department facility in the state.

Might want to try that, make things go as smoothly as possible for you.

96 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:09:40pm

re: #91 JRCMYP

Pshaw! This is an open-ish thread. Feel free to share.

And welcome to LGF!

97 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:10:15pm

re: #91 JRCMYP

Welcome!

98 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:10:26pm

re: #84 Naso Tang

Everybody who is registered, and stays that way, is by default.

LIKE HELL I AM! I'LL KILL YOU IF YOU SAY THAT AGAIN!

//

99 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:10:40pm

re: #94 BryanS

Sorry about quoting his whole thing...feel free to delete the reference to his obnoxious over the top last sentence.

100 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:11:04pm

re: #91 JRCMYP

I actually joined just the other day (I emailed Charles and asked nicely). But, I'll introduce myself:

I'm a 42-year old female, small business owner, wife, mother and left of center very normal person. In an earlier lifetime I was a historian. There is more, of course, but this is not a message board, it's a blog with comments.

Hi! Welcome to the catacombs of Denver International Airport!

101 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:11:22pm

re: #72 beekiller

What did I miss?

102 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:11:26pm

Hmm.

Someone just registered 'celticdragon'. Lots of warning flags on that name. To block or not to block, that is the question.

103 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:11:26pm

re: #91 JRCMYP

I actually joined just the other day (I emailed Charles and asked nicely). But, I'll introduce myself:

I'm a 42-year old female, small business owner, wife, mother and left of center very normal person. In an earlier lifetime I was a historian. There is more, of course, but this is not a message board, it's a blog with comments.

Welcome!

104 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:11:28pm

re: #98 Occasional Reader

LIKE HELL I AM! I'LL KILL YOU IF YOU SAY THAT AGAIN!

//

Slipped up again. You used tags. Chicken.

105 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:12:40pm

re: #93 Charles

That is NOT cool.

Charles--any way to put in place a self delete function :?) I didn't even read his last sentence until I saw your post...then oops.

106 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:13:18pm

re: #105 BryanS

Charles--any way to put in place a self delete function :?) I didn't even read his last sentence until I saw your post...then oops.

PIMF

107 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:13:34pm

re: #102 Charles

Hmm.

Someone just registered 'celticdragon'. Lots of warning flags on that name. To block or not to block, that is the question.

What are the warning flags? Just curious.

108 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:13:47pm

re: #102 Charles

Hmm.

Someone just registered 'celticdragon'. Lots of warning flags on that name. To block or not to block, that is the question.

Trust your instincts.

109 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:13:48pm

re: #105 BryanS

Charles--any way to put in place a self delete function :?) I didn't even read his last sentence until I saw your post...then oops.

Yeah but oops is what makes life interesting.

110 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:14:13pm

re: #102 Charles

Hmm.

Someone just registered 'celticdragon'. Lots of warning flags on that name. To block or not to block, that is the question.

It might be just a cuddly-snuggly Nessie-poo dragon.

/heh

111 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:14:21pm

re: #100 davinvalkri

Hi! Welcome to the catacombs of Denver International Airport!

I was at DIA in May, and said to myself that I'd stop by and say hi to Charles and Stinky - as luck would have it, the traffic was a mess and I made it to the airport with seconds to spare. I had to skip dropping by HQ, and when I got to my gate, they were already boarding!

/Made it by the hair on my chinny chin chin!

112 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:14:34pm

re: #91 JRCMYP

In an earlier lifetime I was a historian.


Did you focus on a specific period of history?

113 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:15:39pm

re: #107 Occasional Reader

What are the warning flags? Just curious.

The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol. Combine that with 'dragon' and it strongly suggests a British BNP type.

114 lastlaugh  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:15:47pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Finally made it it! I've been reading LGF since the beginning of the year. My co-worker introduced me, and I was drawn in by the anti-birther articles at a time when many on the right were unfortunately giving that movement at a nod and a wink.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:03pm

Welcome Hatchlings. Guinness, please. Many, and keep 'em coming quick.

re: #56 mikhailtheplumber

An Argentine you say? Have you ever seen these guys play live?

116 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:15pm

re: #113 Charles

The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol. Combine that with 'dragon' and it strongly suggests a British BNP type.

Ah.

I was never sure if "celtic cross" and "odin's cross" were the same thing.

117 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:22pm

re: #57 Dark_Falcon

That's not nice, HH. Accurate, funny, witty, but not nice. ;)

I figured after they posted my name at their website and trashed my website it wasn't wasn't going to go well...I figured nicejust jumped out a 100 story window in New York...
This isn't play school..And at this point..I won't play school with fuckers willing to try to destroy me on the Internet...It won't work..And to my all friends that jumped ship..This isn't directed towards you...
Just step back..You know me..You know it's unfair to what has been done to my website...To trash my charity website and call me a charity whore is beyond the pale...Step back..If that is how you really feel..Then Fuck you. Enjoy lgf2

118 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:30pm

re: #109 Naso Tang

Yeah but oops is what makes life interesting.

heh...yeah. but as albusteve says, PIMF.

119 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:47pm

re: #113 Charles

The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol. Combine that with 'dragon' and it strongly suggests a British BNP type.

We haven't had a fascist troll in awhile. Might be fun...

120 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:16:56pm

re: #114 lastlaugh

Welcome.

121 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:17:30pm

re: #113 Charles

The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol. Combine that with 'dragon' and it strongly suggests a British BNP type.

I thought it was more the Odin's Cross that was that way rather than the Celtic one which has the long bottom bar on it.

122 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:17:38pm

re: #114 lastlaugh

Finally made it it! I've been reading LGF since the beginning of the year. My co-worker introduced me, and I was drawn in by the anti-birther articles at a time when many on the right were unfortunately giving that movement at a nod and a wink.

That's great!

123 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:17:46pm

re: #102 Charles

Hmm.

Someone just registered 'celticdragon'. Lots of warning flags on that name. To block or not to block, that is the question.

Some Celtic dragons are just dragons. Others are racists in dragon drag.

Let's see what this one is, please? I have a soft spot for dragons of all kinds...

124 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:18:22pm

re: #116 Occasional Reader

Ah.

I was never sure if "celtic cross" and "odin's cross" were the same thing.

They're really not.

125 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:18:44pm

re: #114 lastlaugh

Finally made it it! I've been reading LGF since the beginning of the year. My co-worker introduced me, and I was drawn in by the anti-birther articles at a time when many on the right were unfortunately giving that movement at a nod and a wink.

Birther: I can say what I want! Authority must be questioned! And I have the Bill of Rights on my side!

Normal person: But you have violated the Anti-Birther Articles! Now STFU!

126 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:18:56pm

re: #123 Cato the Elder

Some Celtic dragons are just dragons. Others are racists in dragon drag.

Let's see what this one is, please? I have a soft spot for dragons of all kinds...

To a real dragon, you're all soft spot, except for the crunchy bits in the middle.

/

127 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:19:06pm

Hello world!

It's 3:17 AM over here but the waiting was worth it! Thanks for this opportunity. I've seen the door open and close so many times and this time the door was still open. (What was Charles thinking?? Letting in a Dutchman??) Hahaha!!

Serious though, I do enjoy this site a lot.

128 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:19:24pm

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

129 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:19:57pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

...doesn't that violate your own rules, Charles? C'mon, we're all big men (and women!) here...

130 Lee Coller  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:04pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

They're stupid enough to continually register with the same email address?

131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:09pm

re: #113 Charles

Celtic cross

Those *ssholes ripped off/trashed a fine symbol.

132 Mickey Blumental  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:11pm

It was always the doors are open, the doors are closed... Finally I log in during the short window. Yay!

133 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:21pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

Do socks actually use non-disposable addresses?

134 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:27pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

wow...that's a leap, worth considering I guess

135 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:20:46pm

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Those *ssholes ripped off/trashed a fine symbol.

I feel the same way about the swastika.

KIDDING!

136 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:01pm

re: #132 Udon

It was always the doors are open, the doors are closed... Finally I log in during the short window. Yay!

Way to noodle your way in :)

137 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:07pm

re: #113 Charles

The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol. Combine that with 'dragon' and it strongly suggests a British BNP type.

I strongly take issue with that. I wear a Celtic cross and if I'm a neo-Nazi then Pam Geller is my girlfriend.

The Odin's cross has four equal ends extending beyond the circle. The Celtic has a long post at the bottom - you know, where the original crosses were stuck in the ground before the Romans nailed people to them?

138 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:24pm

re: #124 Cato the Elder

They're really not.

Unfortunately, the Celtic cross has been appropriated by the neo-Nazi morons. It's all over their sites, and I don't mean just the simplified Odin's Cross version.

139 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:24pm

re: #124 Cato the Elder

They're really not.

Celtic Cross

Odin's Cross

You can see that there is some confusion about is as I saw at least one that appeared in both searches. Also noticed that LGF returned a hit on the second one.

140 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:35pm

re: #127 William of Orange

Just in time to prepare for next year's St. Patrick's Day!

141 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:21:56pm

Which newbie is buying the booze?

Whiskey, neat for me. Canadian Whiskey please.

142 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:22:12pm

re: #130 Lee Coller

They're stupid enough to continually register with the same email address?

That is beyond stupid. That's the same level of idiocy of kidnapping someone, and writing in your house's return address on the ransom note.

143 webevintage  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:22:15pm

OMG! I finally got my email to take the registration confirmation.
Finally.
Hi y'all from Arkansas.
Yes I am vintage, but I sell vintage too.
Julie, is a liberal who homeschools her kid (well, really not any more he is pretty much ready to be released into the wild world) in the wilds of Arkansas and I visit LGF everyday because I love reading viewpoints different then my own without all the crazy.
(Yes, I know that we have more then enough crazy to go around amoung those of us who are to the left of center.)
Thank you for letting this lurker in.

144 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:22:21pm

re: #137 Cato the Elder

then Pam Geller is my girlfriend.

So then, you can answer the question:

Are they real?

/

145 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:22:41pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

Well, the Hindus and the Navajo might not be kidding ...

146 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:22:57pm

re: #144 Occasional Reader

So then, you can answer the question:

Are they real?

/

No I can't, because the first part of the hypothetical is not true.

147 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:16pm

re: #126 OldLineTexan

To a real dragon, you're all soft spot, except for the crunchy bits in the middle.

/

And I hear that you taste good with ketchup!

148 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:21pm

re: #136 BryanS

Way to noodle your way in :)

Udon good!

149 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:26pm
150 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:42pm

re: #137 Cato the Elder

I strongly take issue with that. I wear a Celtic cross and if I'm a neo-Nazi then Pam Geller is my girlfriend.

The Odin's cross has four equal ends extending beyond the circle. The Celtic has a long post at the bottom - you know, where the original crosses were stuck in the ground before the Romans nailed people to them?

I understand being pissed off about it, but you should direct your anger at the neo-Nazis who use the symbol, not at me for pointing it out.

151 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:45pm

re: #133 BryanS

Do socks actually use non-disposable addresses?

Charles doesn't allow signing up with obvious disposables. gmail, yahoo, etc.

152 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:23:56pm

re: #127 William of Orange

Hello world!

It's 3:17 AM over here but the waiting was worth it! Thanks for this opportunity. I've seen the door open and close so many times and this time the door was still open. (What was Charles thinking?? Letting in a Dutchman??) Hahaha!!

Serious though, I do enjoy this site a lot.


Kwam u aan!

153 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:05pm

re: #137 Cato the Elder

I strongly take issue with that. I wear a Celtic cross and if I'm a neo-Nazi then Pam Geller is my girlfriend.

The Odin's cross has four equal ends extending beyond the circle. The Celtic has a long post at the bottom - you know, where the original crosses were stuck in the ground before the Romans nailed people to them?

We had this chat way back when, if you recall.

Modern usage, they are somewhat interchangeable. Certainly the pagan movement has co-opted both symbols and often you see a celtic cross that looks exactly like the Odin cross.

Not a big fan of the cross myself in any form, but I'm not a Christian heh

154 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:20pm

re: #148 OldLineTexan

Udon good!

Dai suki desu, ne.

155 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:24pm

re: #149 traderjoe9

And if you continue down this road, you'll find yourself without an LGF account.

156 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:28pm

re: #149 traderjoe9

Come on, man, calm down! You don't win wars by descending to the level of your enemy!

157 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:33pm

re: #151 CyanSnowHawk

Charles doesn't allow signing up with obvious disposables. gmail, yahoo, etc.

CHARLIE DON'T SURF!

/apropos of nothing

158 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:44pm

re: #142 Dante41

That is beyond stupid. That's the same level of idiocy of kidnapping someone, and writing in your house's return address on the ransom note.

Seems I remember someone writing a "stick-up" note on the back of one of their checkbook deposit slips and handing it to a bank teller.

/or it was something about like that

159 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:46pm

re: #145 OldLineTexan

Well, the Hindus and the Navajo might not be kidding ...

every once in awhile you can still see a swastika up on an older building or whatever around ABQ

160 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:57pm

re: #150 Charles

I understand being pissed off about it, but you should direct your anger at the neo-Nazis who use the symbol, not at me for pointing it out.

The Eastern Orthodox Cross is still cool, right?

161 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:25:10pm

re: #148 OldLineTexan

Udon good!

You keep ramen these references into the thread...

162 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:25:33pm

re: #143 webevintage

Welcome.

163 nene1  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:25:34pm

i once tried to register on 2.0 just to rage at their continual and childish preening and calling of Charles 'Chuckles' (Infuriating, isn't it ? ) and to try to increase the Infantile Level of debate there (I was about to say 'Teen' but even that's a bit advanced for them.) , but I was refused TEN times in a row at the 'Enter Code You See Below' thingy.

Glad I failed, now !

164 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:11pm

re: #161 Occasional Reader

You keep ramen these references into the thread...

I tako the chances I kani get

165 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:22pm

re: #135 Occasional Reader

I feel the same way about the swastika.

KIDDING!

Not at all. The Nazi's "hijacked" the swastika. I've seen it numerous times during my visit in India, where it is still widespread in use (although most of the time a mirror image.) It's been in use since 3000 BC. It's a sacret symbol in Hinduism, equal to the cross and the star of David. (Which is in a way a bit ironic if you ask me.)

166 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:29pm

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

167 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:42pm

I'm looking forward to seeing Zombieland...

Youtube Video
168 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:52pm

Hi everyone!

169 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:57pm

re: #158 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Seems I remember someone writing a "stick-up" note on the back of one of their checkbook deposit slips and handing it to a bank teller.

/or it was something about like that

And there are numerous instances of someone filling out a job application and robbing the place they were doing so at. Naturally, they use all of their real info, and leave it behind.

170 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:14pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?


They use real email addresses???

171 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:20pm

re: #139 CyanSnowHawk

Ewww. Looked at one of the Odin crosses and someone had smeared it with the motto ' white pride world wide' [sic].
It made me nauseous to see any cross desecrated like that.
It was almost hard to find any two of the crosses from the celtic page that were alike... they all looked slightly dissimilar.

172 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:29pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Thanks for checking in and posting about it. I'm glad to know that the warning flags were mistaken this time.

173 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:48pm

re: #151 CyanSnowHawk

Charles doesn't allow signing up with obvious disposables. gmail, yahoo, etc.

I guess my email was ok when I registered--one of the freebies, but obviously a real name.

174 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:50pm

re: #150 Charles

I understand being pissed off about it, but you should direct your anger at the neo-Nazis who use the symbol, not at me for pointing it out.

Charles makes a solid point, Cato.

I remember travelling to Seoul and being surprised at a PR effort there to revive the swastika ( late 90s). It was a symbol of peace and prosperity that the Nazi's appropriated. the mail Seoul subway station has swastikas everywhere in the tile patterns.

But they can't rehabilitate the symbol and never will in the west. Fascists will always appropriate and exploit symbols.

175 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:53pm
176 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:27:54pm

re: #159 albusteve

every once in awhile you can still see a swastika up on an older building or whatever around ABQ

It's the Navajo whirling log legend. I didn't grow up in a complete cultural vacuum.

/

177 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:04pm

re: #128 Charles

I wonder if I started publishing the email addresses of the sock puppets if that might dissuade them from trying again?

I'd support that.

178 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:13pm

re: #166 celticdragon

That's one of the more unique introductions we've had here. Welcome.

179 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:14pm

re: #170 Naso Tang

They use real email addresses???

They have to use real email addresses, because it's necessary to click a link in an email to active the account.

180 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:48pm

re: #172 Charles

Thanks for checking in and posting about it. I'm glad to know that the warning flags were mistaken this time.

Are you kidding?! My "transgendered Scottish harpist Revolutionary War re-enactor" detector was going NUTS!

/

181 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:51pm

Hello all,

Well, I've been reading this site for a fairly short time. I only discovered it a couple of weeks ago after stumbling on a positive comment on DKOS. I checked it out and found a place of great interest to me. I get tired of the prattle at most politically oriented web sites as too much of it is simply everyone believing the same thing while patting each other on the back. Somehow I don't thing that is the case here... That and intelligent thought & conversation from a more conservative perspective than my own is all too hard to find these days. Thank you for that, Charles.

Quick description:
Democratic Socialist economically, old time liberal socially, High Church Anglo-Catholic Episcopalian - radical theologically; reactionary liturgically, Gun nut, Hunter, Film photographer, US Army Vet, married with one child - he's 7 years old and was adopted from Vietnam.

I hope I can offer some thoughts that might be occasionally of interest to the rest here.

William

182 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:28:56pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

Warhammer 40,000 fan? Also, hello!

183 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:00pm

re: #175 traderjoe9

I warned you.

184 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:17pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

Welcome to LGF. As long as you are sane and decent, you'll fit in quite well here.

185 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:36pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Welcome!

186 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:40pm

re: #166 celticdragon

WELCOME!

Questions?

Just one: which is worse: having to shave your face every day and wear a tie or, having to shave your legs and wear stockings?

187 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:46pm

re: #176 OldLineTexan

It's the Navajo whirling log legend. I didn't grow up in a complete cultural vacuum.

/

I always presumed you were a Navajo medicine man selling insurance in Del Rio...sorry

188 Fallout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:29:53pm

Finally! I've been trying to register for years! It's great to be here.

189 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:30:04pm

re: #151 CyanSnowHawk

Charles doesn't allow signing up with obvious disposables. gmail, yahoo, etc.

I know a lot of people who use only gmail, mainly for spam protection. Is that a blanket prohibition here?

190 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:30:07pm

re: #165 William of Orange

Not at all. The Nazi's "hijacked" the swastika. I've seen it numerous times during my visit in India, where it is still widespread in use (although most of the time a mirror image.) It's been in use since 3000 BC. It's a sacret symbol in Hinduism, equal to the cross and the star of David. (Which is in a way a bit ironic if you ask me.)

Right! As a sanskrit symbol, it symbolizes the continued cycle of life. What I'm guessing albusteve was seeing was a backwards swastika. Actually since the sanskrit symbol came first, the swastika is the backward one.

191 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:30:31pm

Is Charles going to allow Trader to flounce or just send him packing, that is the question.

192 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:30:44pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I'm waiting 'til it comes out on DVD, so don't spoil it for me.

193 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:03pm

re: #186 MandyManners

And, yes, that's a half-serious/half-silly question.

194 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:09pm
195 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:22pm

re: #191 Jetpilot1101

Is Charles going to allow Trader to flounce or just send him packing, that is the question.

I believe your question has been answered.

196 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:29pm

re: #179 Charles

They have to use real email addresses, because it's necessary to click a link in an email to active the account.

I didn't know one couldn't do that with gmail.

197 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:30pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Wow! Welcome to LGF!

198 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:37pm

re: #183 Charles

I warned you.

Does that count as a flounce?

199 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:41pm

re: #191 Jetpilot1101

Is Charles going to allow Trader to flounce or just send him packing, that is the question.

I think the latter just happened.

200 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:31:58pm

re: #187 albusteve

I always presumed you were a Navajo medicine man selling insurance in Del Rio...sorry

No apology needed ... a lot of people have made the same mistake. I think it's the hat.

201 lastlaugh  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:18pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I'm looking forward to seeing Zombieland...

[Video]

Probably going to see this tonight. Looks great.

202 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:19pm

re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I think the latter just happened.

...and the deuce just gained another poster. Good riddance.

203 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:21pm

re: #190 marjoriemoon

What I'm guessing albusteve was seeing was a backwards swastika. Actually since the sanskrit symbol came first, the swastika is the backward one.


Actually swastikas go both ways all around the North Indian subcontinent. I'm not sure if there's a different meaning to them on which way it goes.

204 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:27pm

Thank you Charles and Killgore.

I have enjoyed this site for some time as a lurker, and it's a privilege to join the crew :)

205 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:30pm

re: #159 albusteve

I have a Persian rug that's over a hundred years old and it's from one of the rural, tribal parts of Persia, looks almost American Indian in its linear simplicity, not the typical floral/ornate patterns you think of... the last time I had it cleaned, I noticed that one of the borders is composed of what has to be the same type of symbol as a swastika. Fortunately it doesn't really stand out from the pattern, but still... that symbol must have been around a long time in another form.

206 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:32:35pm

BTW, without quoting, what was traderjoe on about? I missed the flame outs.

207 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:03pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Questions?

Another one: are you a member of Log Cabin Republicans? Is so, why? If not, why not?

208 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:12pm

re: #206 Naso Tang

BTW, without quoting, what was traderjoe on about? I missed the flame outs.

Something about how Israel needs to reduce itself to terrorist levels regarding prisoners. Kinda sad, really.

209 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:20pm

re: #191 Jetpilot1101

Is Charles going to allow Trader to flounce or just send him packing, that is the question.

Lost that bet. *hands Jetpilot a $10*

210 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:21pm

re: #182 davinvalkri

Warhammer 40,000 fan? Also, hello!

Are YOU willing to repay your eternal debt to the God-Emperor of Mankind?

Join the Imperial Guard today!

211 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:26pm

Fallout
This user is blocked.
Registered since: Oct 2, 2009 at 6:26 pm
No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0

Shit, that was quick. Must be someone you already know.

212 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:35pm

re: #204 celticdragon

Thank you Charles and Killgore.

I have enjoyed this site for some time as a lurker, and it's a privilege to join the crew :)

Welcome to LGF, a place where sanity reigns supreme and ignorance is frowned upon.

213 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:33:48pm

re: #206 Naso Tang

BTW, without quoting, what was traderjoe on about? I missed the flame outs.

you snooze, you loose...move on

214 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:01pm

re: #202 Jetpilot1101

...and the deuce just gained another poster. Good riddance.

I only saw the first one of that string.
I didn't make any sort of effort to catch a glimpse of the others.

/*crosses eyes, shakes head*

215 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:02pm

re: #188 Fallout

Finally! I've been trying to register for years! It's great to be here.

According to your football avatar, you're blocked. I'm not sure if this is an error.

216 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:30pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

Shit, that was quick. Must be someone you already know.

Yep.

217 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:40pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

Wow! Hey there CelticDragon! That's quite a bio. Welcome! I've always been very curious when members of the LGBT community are Republicans. Were you always Republican if you don't mind the question.

218 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:46pm

I came to LGF because it appears to be reasonably sane and willing to call BS on the stuff coming from the uber-reich lately.

I am probably more to the center left than most here in that I think the effectiveness of government is much more important than the size of government, and that government does have its place in solving some problems, but not all.

Having worked in corporate america for the last 20 years, I have no faith whatsoever in the private sector being any more efficient or fair than the public sector when doing anything.

219 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:58pm

re: #208 davinvalkri

Something about how Israel needs to reduce itself to terrorist levels regarding prisoners. Kinda sad, really.

It would be sad if it actually happened, but I'm confident that Israel would never do that.

220 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:34:58pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Actually swastikas go both ways all around the North Indian subcontinent. I'm not sure if there's a different meaning to them on which way it goes.

According to this article, there is.

221 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:35:16pm

Dear Newbies-

Really glad to see more of you posting on these threads- it wasn't always so. Thanks for sharing a bit about yourselves, as I personally think it helps us get to know you and will help you feel more at home at LGF with the rest of our community.

For those of you just posting a "hi"... come on. Post something more- we can't get to know you that way. Thanks.

222 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:35:18pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Actually swastikas go both ways all around the North Indian subcontinent. I'm not sure if there's a different meaning to them on which way it goes.

Really? I don't think I knew that.

223 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:35:34pm

re: #206 Naso Tang

BTW, without quoting, what was traderjoe on about? I missed the flame outs.

Wanted to have an extra man in motion on the power sweep.

224 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:35:36pm

re: #210 Dante41

Are YOU willing to repay your eternal debt to the God-Emperor of Mankind?

Join the Imperial Guard today!

Welcome, fellow gamer! I play Battletech myself, but its great to have a fellow miniatures gamer here.

225 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:36:06pm

re: #203 Killgore Trout

Actually swastikas go both ways

NTTAWWT

226 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:36:06pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

More like a bounce.

227 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:36:28pm

re: #218 PT Barnum

I came to LGF because it appears to be reasonably sane and willing to call BS on the stuff coming from the uber-reich lately.

I am probably more to the center left than most here in that I think the effectiveness of government is much more important than the size of government, and that government does have its place in solving some problems, but not all.

Having worked in corporate america for the last 20 years, I have no faith whatsoever in the private sector being any more efficient or fair than the public sector when doing anything.

Eh, humans are humans. They aren't going to do any better in government than they are in the private sector (or is it the other way around?), I suppose. Also, hello!

228 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:36:33pm

Davinvalkri

Warhammer 40,000 fan? Also, hello!


LOL, I see you read my storyline for the Apocalypse Warhammer Game at my blog!

Yes, I play Warhammer Fantasy and 40K. I run Dark Angels, Imperial Guard and Inquisition.

229 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:36:35pm

61 hatchlings, 16 socks.

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:01pm

re: #216 Charles

Whoever it was, shame on him/her for soiling the good name of Fallout!

231 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:03pm

>>For those of you just posting a "hi"... come on. Post something more- we can't get to know you that way. Thanks.

232 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:03pm

re: #152 bratwurst

Kwam u aan!

Hehehe. Ja. Ik had al zo'n gevoel dat ik niet alleen zou zijn in dit forum.

(Not to be rude, here's the translation; Yes, I had a kind of feeling I was not going ti be the only one in this forum, Dutchies that is)

233 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:14pm

re: #218 PT Barnum

I came to LGF because it appears to be reasonably sane and willing to call BS on the stuff coming from the uber-reich lately.

I am probably more to the center left than most here in that I think the effectiveness of government is much more important than the size of government, and that government does have its place in solving some problems, but not all.

Having worked in corporate america for the last 20 years, I have no faith whatsoever in the private sector being any more efficient or fair than the public sector when doing anything.

Using an oxymoron as a literary device of some sort, or are we to expect government to be effective some how? You have seen our Congress of late, right? Both parties, right?

And by the way, welcome.

234 Interested and concerned CDN  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:24pm

re: #113 Charles

I did not know it was celtic. Sad.

re: #166 celticdragon

Well...buddy...You might be a brand new flavor here...welcome

235 simoom  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:27pm

Yay, I made it in this time. :D

I've been following LGF for about half a year. I can't remember exactly what link I first followed here, but I do recall it was completely different than I expected it too be (references I'd seen to it on other forums over the years lead me to expect something closer to other right/conservative blogs like maybe Hot Air -- well, Hot Air back when it was less nutty than it's present incarnation I mean :o).

I found much of what was posted on LGF in line with my own political and personal interests so I've faithfully been a reader here since. I'm glad I've finally caught one of the registration windows! Greetings to you all :).

236 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #216 Charles

Yep.

Please delete my #194 pre-Boomer Marine brat

237 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:30pm

re: #219 John Neverbend

It would be sad if it actually happened, but I'm confident that Israel would never do that.

If they wanted to carpet bomb, they would have done it a long time ago. It's never going to happen. Just some folks with sick fantasies.

238 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:46pm

re: #174 karmic_inquisitor

Charles makes a solid point, Cato.

I remember travelling to Seoul and being surprised at a PR effort there to revive the swastika ( late 90s). It was a symbol of peace and prosperity that the Nazi's appropriated. the mail Seoul subway station has swastikas everywhere in the tile patterns.

Not to be confused with the backward swastikas, which are the symbols on buddhist temples in Korea.

But they can't rehabilitate the symbol and never will in the west. Fascists will always appropriate and exploit symbols.

Yep. I for one rather wish that the confederate battle emblem could somehow be rehabilitated, as a symbol of mere regional pride. But, such efforts are definitely uphill, and probably foredoomed.

239 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #204 celticdragon

Thank you Charles and Killgore.

I have enjoyed this site for some time as a lurker, and it's a privilege to join the crew :)

I'm really glad to know we have a new member who is against the homophobia we tend to see on the right. I can only speak for myself when I say I welcome your voice in that discussion here (though I don't think I'm alone).

240 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:52pm

Yay Friday!

241 abbyadams  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:37:54pm

re: #166 celticdragon

From one Highland Gamer (fiddler) to another, welcome!

242 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:38:13pm

re: #229 Charles

61 hatchlings, 16 socks.

SNR seems to be leveling off, but staying still pretty close to .30 from earlier :)

243 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:38:32pm

re: #231 Floridagirl

Try the reply and quote functions- they are your friends. :)

244 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:39:17pm

I came to LGF for the sex, drugs and rock and roll...can't say I've been disappointed, altho I'm sure I'll never see a Stones post

245 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:39:57pm

Dang

246 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:39:58pm

A classic attempted registration:

Name: CharlesIsAHypocrite
Email: vaginaldischarge187 -at- popular free email service

Oh yeah! Come right in!

Idiot.

247 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:40:15pm

re: #150 Charles

I understand being pissed off about it, but you should direct your anger at the neo-Nazis who use the symbol, not at me for pointing it out.

I'm not angry at you. I think you're exaggerating the extent to which the Celtic cross in its usual form has been co-opted by the neo-fascists. It's far to Cathol-icky for them.

A replica of the last image is what I wear. If any fascist ever tries to buddy up to me on that basis, he'll get a punch in the nose.

248 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:40:20pm

Due to the nature of my work, I'm not connected to internet the whole week. Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership? Regularly I only spend a significant ammount of time on a PC in the weekend.

(Haven't tested a phone connection yet so maybe weekdays are not that much of a problem.)

Clarify please.

249 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:40:52pm

re: #248 William of Orange

Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership?

Heck, no!

250 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:10pm

re: #245 Floridagirl

Try again! You'll get the hang of it.

251 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:29pm

re: #247 Cato the Elder

I'm not angry at you. I think you're exaggerating the extent to which the Celtic cross in its usual form has been co-opted by the neo-fascists. It's far to Cathol-icky for them.

A replica of the last image is what I wear. If any fascist ever tries to buddy up to me on that basis, he'll get a punch in the nose.

I'm not exaggerating, sorry. I could post links to sites that use the Celtic cross that would curl your teeth.

252 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:33pm

re: #232 William of Orange

Hehehe. Ja. Ik had al zo'n gevoel dat ik niet alleen zou zijn in dit forum.

(Not to be rude, here's the translation; Yes, I had a kind of feeling I was not going ti be the only one in this forum, Dutchies that is)


I am not fortunate enough to be Dutch, but I lived in Germany for many years close to the border (near Venlo, Nijmegen and Arnhem) and loved a Dutch/Israeli lady I met there. I relocated back to the US just over a year ago and have been desperate for a warm stroopwafel even since!

253 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:41pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

Welcome.

254 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:55pm

re: #246 Charles

A classic attempted registration:

Name: CharlesIsAHypocrite
Email: vaginaldischarge187 -at- popular free email service

Oh yeah! Come right in!

Idiot.

Can I just say that I do not share a common ancestor with that person.

255 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:41:58pm

re: #246 Charles

A classic attempted registration:

Name: CharlesIsAHypocrite
Email: vaginaldischarge187 -at- popular free email service

Oh yeah! Come right in!

Idiot.

Was dunking a cookie in milk, now I've got milk all OVER th' damned place!

256 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:42:00pm

re: #248 William of Orange

Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership?

No, but there is the registration fee. I'll be sending you my account information.

//

(those are called "sarcasm tags", by the way)

257 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:42:20pm

re: #246 Charles

That kind of stupid should be wearing a helmet at all times.

258 HelloDare  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:42:34pm

re: #246 Charles

A classic attempted registration:

Name: CharlesIsAHypocrite
Email: vaginaldischarge187 -at- popular free email service

Oh yeah! Come right in!

Idiot.

That's odd because vaginaldischarge185 and 186 are nice guys.

259 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:42:55pm

re: #256 Occasional Reader

No, but there is the registration fee. I'll be sending you my account information.

Don't forget the ... initiation.

cough

260 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:42:56pm

re: #248 William of Orange

Due to the nature of my work, I'm not connected to internet the whole week. Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership? Regularly I only spend a significant ammount of time on a PC in the weekend.

(Haven't tested a phone connection yet so maybe weekdays are not that much of a problem.)

Clarify please.

Hasn't been a problem for me to just post in spurts and mostly then on weekends...many don't post much at all.

261 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:43:00pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

That kind of stupid should be wearing a helmet at all times.

Maybe we could introduce said person to "green helmet guy". Different people, same stupid.

262 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:43:05pm

re: #248 William of Orange

Due to the nature of my work, I'm not connected to internet the whole week. Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership? Regularly I only spend a significant ammount of time on a PC in the weekend.

(Haven't tested a phone connection yet so maybe weekdays are not that much of a problem.)

Clarify please.

Just posting content.

263 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:43:16pm

re: #228 celticdragon

Davinvalkri

Warhammer 40,000 fan? Also, hello!

LOL, I see you read my storyline for the Apocalypse Warhammer Game at my blog!

Yes, I play Warhammer Fantasy and 40K. I run Dark Angels, Imperial Guard and Inquisition.

I've got a Cadian-style IG mechanized regiment, but I am thinking of getting some Chaos Space Marines after reading Dan Abbot's "Legion". Makes sense, really, that the Alpha Legion is still loyal. Only legion to not fall back to the Eye of Terror after the Heresy.

If y'all don't mind a wall of text, I can give you y'all some compelling reasons why I think they are still loyal. ;-)

264 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:43:56pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth
No... just let Darwin be Darwin.
//

265 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:08pm

re: #259 Charles

Don't forget the ... initiation.

cough

Shit. I forgot the paddles.

266 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:23pm

re: #259 Charles

Don't forget the ... initiation.

cough

...what initiation? Has something changed since I registered?

///I kid, I kid...

267 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:33pm

re: #265 Occasional Reader

Shit. I forgot the paddles.

You know the penalty for forgetfulness ...

268 simoom  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:42pm

Oh, and it's neat seeing all the spiffy forum features that weren't visible prior to registration. Like everyone's little avatar icons, for example. :P

269 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:45pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

That kind of stupid should be wearing a helmet at all times.

That kinda stupid should be in Congress.
/

270 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:48pm

re: #246 Charles

A classic attempted registration:

Name: CharlesIsAHypocrite
Email: vaginaldischarge187 -at- popular free email service

Oh yeah! Come right in!

Idiot.

Was good for a quick laugh. I moved on :)

271 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:45:13pm

Lets get this party started.

Primus - Tommy The Cat

Youtube Video
272 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:45:18pm

re: #267 OldLineTexan

You know the penalty for forgetfulness ...

Absolutely. It's... it's... aw dangit!

273 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:45:25pm

re: #267 OldLineTexan

You know the penalty for forgetfulness ...

Mr. Sulu... your agonizer, please.

274 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:45:59pm

re: #273 SteveC

Mr. Sulu... your agonizer, please.

Sulu always uses it on himself; the batteries are worn down.

275 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:45:59pm

re: #269 Dante41

That kinda stupid should be in Congress.
/

Great news, it already is./

276 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:46:05pm

re: #248 William of Orange

Due to the nature of my work, I'm not connected to internet the whole week. Is there some kind of posting quota to justify my membership? Regularly I only spend a significant ammount of time on a PC in the weekend.

(Haven't tested a phone connection yet so maybe weekdays are not that much of a problem.)

Clarify please.

You can post as much or as little as you want. There's no quota. But if you've followed the blog at all, you'll know there's certain stuff that isn't tolerated.

I've been here quite some time. I'm one of those damn liberals you hear tell about :p And I certainly don't agree with many people here, but they tolerate me and some I think actually like me! I like them anyway. Well most!

Anyway, my best advice is to jump in with two feet. The worst thing that can happen is you lose your account :) And contrary to popular belief, life does go on.

277 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:46:59pm

re: #246 Charles

You know, a job would be a great way for people like that to get out of the house and pick up some social skills.

278 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:47:03pm

re: #271 Racer X

Lets get this party started.

Primus - Tommy The Cat

Primus SUCKS!

279 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:47:08pm

re: #233 BryanS

The problem is that if one believes that government can never be effective, one has no motivation to make it effective. Which explains any number of cloister flocks that occurred during the Bush years /

That's not to say that government can solve every problem but that there are problems that cannot be solved by private enterprise because the payoffs are too far into the future to be attractive.

To me government should be focused on the long range thinking that private enterprise doesn't tend to do all that much.

Any number of things we enjoy today were created by the government without a profit motive and then turned into tremendous opportunities. Without ARPANET, for example, I doubt any of us would be having this conversation in this venue. I was able to drive cross country to see my parents in a few hours because of the interstate highway system. Those are examples where government is able to be effective.

280 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:47:39pm

re: #248 William of Orange

I think what's confusing there is that some registered users appear to be inactive... that is, to have registered a screen name and subsequently only logged in occasionally to cause trouble... for example, when poster ' registered since 2007, three comments' suddenly starts showing up in a bad mood, you have to figure they had tucked that name away to be used in the even of their blogdeath (banning). It doesn't mean that you have to post a certain number of times or face consequences.

281 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:48:38pm

re: #163 nene1

The intellectual midgets at the deuce have never been able to get their registration page to work properly and you have to email the site in order to register.
What is hilarious about this is that Rodan claims to be in charge of IT for a bank.

282 jvic  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:48:46pm

re: #238 The Sanity Inspector

Not to be confused with the backward swastikas, which are the symbols on buddhist temples in Korea.

And used by Falun Gong.

283 Mary Garth  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:48:53pm

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

284 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:49:36pm

re: #229 Charles

61 hatchlings, 16 socks.

That's palindromic.

285 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:49:44pm

Maybe I consider myself also left leaning but that's the way our political system works at home. Everything is more left leaning over here in the Netherlands, apart from Wilders obviously. What I don't tolerate is ignorance and baseless rants like Beck. Even O'Reilly seems to be mainstream compared to him lately.

286 ohpleaseno  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:49:47pm

*POP*

I'm as liberal as they come, but I enjoy the hell out of this site. It's like reading an opposing viewpoint without wanting to punch the monitor.

287 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:49:53pm

re: #276 marjoriemoon

You can post as much or as little as you want. There's no quota. But if you've followed the blog at all, you'll know there's certain stuff that isn't tolerated.

I've been here quite some time. I'm one of those damn liberals you hear tell about :p And I certainly don't agree with many people here, but they tolerate me and some I think actually like me! I like them anyway. Well most!

Anyway, my best advice is to jump in with two feet. The worst thing that can happen is you lose your account :) And contrary to popular belief, life does go on.

and don't make fun of albusteve...he has a social disorder and DepenZe are expensive on a limited budget...thank you

288 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:49:55pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Uh...I'm celticdragon.

Disgruntled Republican...annoyed with know nothing populism and anti intellectualism. Geology major at an up scale liberal arts college (Guilford College in Greensboro, NC as an adult CCE student. I have no patience with Young Earther Creationist types. I play Celtic Harp and I compete in Scottish Harp events at the Grandfather Mountain Highland games. I love Celtic Music (Altan, Albannach, Deanta, Cherich The Ladies, The Chieftens). I am also a Revolutionary War re-enactor.

I am also a trans-gendered woman...which doesn't always go well with being a Republican when the party goes into full out GOD HATES FAGS mode.

*sigh*

I'm still married to my wife, and we have a 9 year old son. I used to be a commercial aircraft mechanic until I got injured rather badly, so I am finishing the aforementioned geology degree.

Questions?

How about posting a YouTube video of your harp playing, or your Revolutionary War re-enacting? Have you been in any Battles of King's Mountain?

289 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:00pm

re: #283 Mary Garth

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

Have you finished scrubbing the bathroom floor with the toothbrush yet?

290 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:04pm

re: #139 CyanSnowHawk

Celtic Cross

Odin's Cross

You can see that there is some confusion about is as I saw at least one that appeared in both searches. Also noticed that LGF returned a hit on the second one.

Of the 54 images on the first three pages of your "Odin's Cross" search, there are five that fit my definition of a Celtic cross.

Seems the "interchangeability" is not so great as some might claim. In my opinion the German ban is bad law.

291 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:11pm

re: #283 Mary Garth

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

Welcome!

292 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:15pm

re: #284 MandyManners

That's palindromic.

Sarah Palindromic?

293 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:32pm

Wow!

Thank you so much for welcomes! I am a little bit overwhelmed. :)


MandyManners and Marjorie...

I have supported the Log Cabin Republicans and even tried to help start a local group here in Greensboro. We didn't really get off the ground. Right now, I feel so estranged from the party that I am not interested in helping at all until we get some semblance of sanity back into the discourse. Honestly, this last election was the first time I have ever voted for a Democrat for higher office, and I have been a Republican since 1985. I took a lot to alienate me...and the incompetence, mendacity and inability to actually govern over the past 8 years convinced me that something had to be done. I couldn't just be a consistent enabler in an abused spouse relationship...which was what my party affiliation was beginning to feel like. Not that I am happy with Obama in many respects...but Christ in Heaven! It at least feels like we have adults back in charge even if I think they were insane for canceling the F22 (I tend to write about defense matters)


Lessee...shaving face and wearing ties...or shaving legs and wearing hose...

They are both annoying. I tend to wear skirt suits since I dislike the idea of forty something year old people trying to dress like 18 year olds. If you look professional, you get taken seriously; so I shave the legs and wear hose. It's still a bother, though.

294 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:38pm

Hi, I am back, I'm from Florida (computer issues earlier) love this blog

295 Mary Garth  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:44pm

re: #289 Gearhead

Have you finished scrubbing the bathroom floor with the toothbrush yet?

I'll get right on that sir, Yes sir.

296 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:44pm

re: #246 Charles

That's just nasty.

297 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:46pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

*POP*

I'm as liberal as they come, but I enjoy the hell out of this site. It's like reading an opposing viewpoint without wanting to punch the monitor.

Wheee, civil discussions! You know how rare those are on the internet?! Welcome to Denver---Little Green Footballs.

298 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:56pm

re: #280 tradewind

I think what's confusing there is that some registered users appear to be inactive... that is, to have registered a screen name and subsequently only logged in occasionally to cause trouble... for example, when poster ' registered since 2007, three comments' suddenly starts showing up in a bad mood, you have to figure they had tucked that name away to be used in the even of their blogdeath (banning). It doesn't mean that you have to post a certain number of times or face consequences.

ticks can remain dormant for years...jus sayin

299 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:50:59pm

re: #283 Mary Garth

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

I guess you've kind of graduated to "newbie" status.

/heck, sometimes I think I still am, and I've been around almost 2 years

300 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:51:07pm

re: #283 Mary Garth

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

No it does not. Where the hell is my damn Guinness?
/

301 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:51:33pm

re: #289 Gearhead

Have you finished scrubbing the bathroom floor with the toothbrush yet?

Dammit, I thought I was through with bloody O-Weeks.

302 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:51:36pm

re: #284 MandyManners

that's palindromic


Shhh. Cato's still logged in.
:)

303 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:52:14pm

re: #295 Mary Garth

I'll get right on that sir, Yes sir.

I need it back. Wife is complaining about the breath...

304 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:52:21pm

re: #283 Mary Garth

Does this mean I'm not a hatchling anymore? (I joined in the open registration last Sunday).

You still gotta' buy us a round. I'm having Basil Hayden, thank you very much.

305 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:52:28pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

An Argentine you say? Have you ever seen these guys play live?

Actually, I have (although being a rock show, and me being slightly inebriated, my memories of the event are fuzzy at best). If you like Natas, you should check out Massacre , they're pretty good.

(Did the link work? I suck at using HTML)

306 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:52:45pm

Approaching 100 hatchlings, and the door is starting to close.

307 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:52:45pm

re: #268 simoom

Oh, and it's neat seeing all the spiffy forum features that weren't visible prior to registration. Like everyone's little avatar icons, for example. :P

What till it snows...I'm changing the Avatar to my dog floating around the swimming pool..( click me) To little Winston sitting in the hot tub with sun glasses on and a bud light light nearby ( I don't let him drink).. I dunno..He is the coolest dog and that's just the way I roll..*wink*
/Wait..I'm serious...

308 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:25pm

Cheese and Crackers!

What does one have to do to get a waitress around here?

309 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:31pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

Welcome

Opposing viewpoints are welcome, when presented in an adult manner.
Comment to us when you have something to say.

310 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:38pm

re: #285 William of Orange

Maybe I consider myself also left leaning but that's the way our political system works at home. Everything is more left leaning over here in the Netherlands, apart from Wilders obviously. What I don't tolerate is ignorance and baseless rants like Beck. Even O'Reilly seems to be mainstream compared to him lately.

It will be nice having more lizards around who can help keep tabs on Wilders and the far right in Europe. I sure hoe you will chip in what you can.

311 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:39pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

*POP*

I'm as liberal as they come, but I enjoy the hell out of this site. It's like reading an opposing viewpoint without wanting to punch the monitor.

Exactly why I am here as well. First of all, this country needs at least two robust parties. Second of all, I would much rather left-leaning candidates win because of the popularity of their policies...not because the right has embraced elements that the silent majority find abhorrent.

312 dugmartsch  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:42pm

It's a sacret symbol in Hinduism, equal to the cross and the star of David. (Which is in a way a bit ironic if you ask me.)

Same symbol different origins/meanings.

I don't think the Nazi's were aware of the hindu symbol when they created theirs, as the Nazi symbol is four axes pointed in the same direct, signifying national socialism. The iron cross is in the same vein.

313 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:42pm

re: #301 Dante41

Dammit, I thought I was through with bloody O-Weeks.

I never ends. I'm still cutting the back 40 with cuticle scissors.

314 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:53:50pm

re: #292 Occasional Reader

Sarah Palindromic?

Madam, I'm Adam.

315 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:54:07pm

re: #279 PT Barnum

The problem is that if one believes that government can never be effective, one has no motivation to make it effective. Which explains any number of cloister flocks that occurred during the Bush years /

That's not to say that government can solve every problem but that there are problems that cannot be solved by private enterprise because the payoffs are too far into the future to be attractive.

To me government should be focused on the long range thinking that private enterprise doesn't tend to do all that much.

Any number of things we enjoy today were created by the government without a profit motive and then turned into tremendous opportunities. Without ARPANET, for example, I doubt any of us would be having this conversation in this venue. I was able to drive cross country to see my parents in a few hours because of the interstate highway system. Those are examples where government is able to be effective.

Can't argue with your two examples--though note how nothing happened with ARPANET UNTIL it was handed over to private hands.

I agree that government should focus on things that individuals and the private sector cannot, however noting its level of competence, I would say it's best to keep those areas to as few areas as possible.

Using Obama's post office example--heh, heh--there was a time when it was necessary. But the postal service has always been inefficient. Now that private companies can do profitably what the post office fails to do well, we can probably do away with it. But there is another truism of government--like many areas of government that are no longer, or never have been, effective, it will never die.

316 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:54:36pm

re: #281 Reginald Perrin

What is hilarious about this is that Rodan claims to be in charge of IT for a bank.

Time to go short, if only I knew which bank.

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:54:40pm

re: #293 celticdragon

I felt a wicked cool disturbance in the blogoshpere, as if millions of heads suddenly exploded. Nice.

Welcome.

318 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:55:20pm

re: #227 davinvalkri

I think it works both ways. They both have their own special brands of idiocy. Private enterprise tends to only look short term and has a tendency to subsume the greater good for the immediate reward. Government tends to be too bureaucratic and lose sight of unintended consequences.

I see the world as being much grayer than most, in that I think pragmatism, looking at both long and short range impact is the best approach, but you rarely get that in government or business.

Much of my disgust with the right at this time is that they seem to be belief driven to the exclusion of any tangible, objective reality that validates what they believe to be true. If there is a conflict then reality must be wrong.

BLEAHH

319 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:55:54pm

re: #307 HoosierHoops

What till it snows...I'm changing the Avatar to my dog floating around the swimming pool..( click me) To little Winston sitting in the hot tub with sun glasses on and a bud light light nearby ( I don't let him drink).. I dunno..He is the coolest dog and that's just the way I roll..*wink*
/Wait..I'm serious...

Hoops ... are your crocked?!?!?!! ... :D

320 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:02pm

re: #316 John Neverbend

Time to go short, if only I knew which bank.

I'm resurecting all my bank shorts. Something tells me with commercial real estate getting ready to default to the tune of trillions, the banks aren't going to be able to hold up much longer.

321 abbyadams  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:28pm

re: #314 MandyManners

A man, a plan, a canal, panama.

322 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:34pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

My feelings exactly. I haven't always felt that way about LGF, but the willingness of people to actually discuss ideas civilly instead of calling names is refreshing.

323 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:38pm

Welcome newbies!

Charles has put together a fantastic blog full of tips and tricks you will not find anywhere else. Click away on all the widgets and stuff - you won't break anything.

Reply and Quote are your friends.

324 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:48pm

re: #293 celticdragon

Wait till the people at the hater blogs get a load of you. Now we're all really going to hell.

I'm glad Charles gave you a chance...

325 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:49pm
326 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:56:49pm

re: #279 PT Barnum

The problem is that if one believes that government can never be effective, one has no motivation to make it effective. Which explains any number of cloister flocks that occurred during the Bush years /

That's not to say that government can solve every problem but that there are problems that cannot be solved by private enterprise because the payoffs are too far into the future to be attractive.

To me government should be focused on the long range thinking that private enterprise doesn't tend to do all that much.

Any number of things we enjoy today were created by the government without a profit motive and then turned into tremendous opportunities. Without ARPANET, for example, I doubt any of us would be having this conversation in this venue. I was able to drive cross country to see my parents in a few hours because of the interstate highway system. Those are examples where government is able to be effective.

But if things were limited to government involvement, then we'd still be stuck with just ARPANET. No one in government would have had the vision or motive to take the concept and run with it.

327 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:57:08pm

re: #309 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welcome

Opposing viewpoints are welcome, when presented in an adult manner.
Comment to us when you have something to say.

Another reason why I joined here. Almost any other "conservative" blog apparently can't take an opposing viewpoint without bringing down the banhammer. Its like they are afraid that they might suddenly catch TEH KENYAN SOCIALISM!!1eleventy!

328 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:57:25pm

re: #282 jvic

And used by Falun Gong.

You link to a Wiki article that reads like something written by Falun Gong.

The smell in the whole thing, (never mind the philosophical mishmash) is that there is a godlike leader with questionable background who lives in seclusion in the USA, as a multi millionaire. Anybody sense suckers in the there somewhere?

329 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:57:40pm

I took my dachshund outside to go to the bathroom a short time ago. There we were at the edge of my woods peeing on a tree. (our rare bonding ritual) When all of a sudden I heard a loud shuffling in the woods, it was more of a... sweeping though. A few seconds later followed ear piercing screams coming from the same direction. It sounded exactly like a woman screaming and stumbling in the woods!

I looked down at Rudy and he was looking up at me with his WTF? expression. We looked like two bumbling idiots running for my back door. I tripped over him once and he squealed, rolled and kept on trucking. The screaming continued even after we made it into my house.

I kept watching out my window waiting to see who or what it was. The screaming stopped and about 10 minutes later I saw a big red fox run across my lawn and into the woods on the other side. I'd always heard that red foxes communicate by screaming but I've never heard one.

330 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:57:55pm

re: #320 Jetpilot1101

I'm resurecting all my bank shorts. Something tells me with commercial real estate getting ready to default to the tune of trillions, the banks aren't going to be able to hold up much longer.

the recession has bottomed out, Bernanke said so

331 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:57:56pm

re: #287 albusteve

and don't make fun of albusteve...he has a social disorder and DepenZe are expensive on a limited budget...thank you

I would never make fun of albusteve. Never ever! Ok, maybe a little.

332 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:24pm

The door has closed, with 80 hatchlings and 18 sock puppet attempts.

333 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:39pm

OT: to back up my previous post concerning banks having problems, here is a clip from a Bloomberg article yesterday:

Oct. 1 (Bloomberg) -- There was a stunning omission from the government's latest list of "problem" banks, which ran to 416 lenders, a 15-year high, as of June 30. One outfit not on the list was Georgian Bank, the second-largest Atlanta-based bank, which supposedly had plenty of capital.

It failed last week.

Georgian's clean-up will be unusually costly. The book value of Georgian's assets was $2 billion as of July 24, about the same as the bank's deposit liabilities, according to a Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. press release. The FDIC estimates the collapse will cost its insurance fund $892 million, or 45 percent of the bank's assets. That percentage was almost double the average for this year's 95 U.S. bank failures, and it was the highest among the 10 largest ones.

334 nene1  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:47pm

Maybe they mean Prince Charles is a Hypocrite ?
They would have a serious point then.

Something tells me it's probably not meant to be him with that Email addy, Though .

335 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:49pm

re: #292 Occasional Reader

Sarah Palindromic?

She sounds the same regardless of which direction she is coming from?

336 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:51pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

*POP*

I'm as liberal as they come, but I enjoy the hell out of this site. It's like reading an opposing viewpoint without wanting to punch the monitor.

Feel free to punch the monitor! I have a sometimes girlfriend who is a nurse and a cousin who sells computer monitors. They need the work!

337 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:51pm

re: #321 abbyadams

A man, a plan, a canal, panama.

Doc note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.

338 jvic  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:58:55pm

re: #312 dugmartsch

It's a sacret symbol in Hinduism, equal to the cross and the star of David. (Which is in a way a bit ironic if you ask me.)

Same symbol different origins/meanings.

I don't think the Nazi's were aware of the hindu symbol when they created theirs, as the Nazi symbol is four axes pointed in the same direct, signifying national socialism. The iron cross is in the same vein.

I always assumed they viewed it as an Aryan symbol. Incorrectly?

339 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:59:09pm

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

340 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:59:55pm

re: #305 mikhailtheplumber

Actually, I have.

Way cool. Also, I hate you now. Just kidding, I'm only a little jealous.

Your link worked. That is cool stuff, but I am generally more into the stoner/doom/metal type stuff. Not strictly, though.

Thanks for the link.

341 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:59:57pm

re: #319 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hoops ... are your crocked?!?!?!! ... :D

LOL
You don't think I'll put my dog in the Hot tub and take a picture?
Seriously? LOL
Oh crap it's on...
/Watching football tonight..Do not go there...
hope today finds you well Brat

342 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:12pm

For the edification of those hatchlings (and newbies) who don't know about it ... check out the LGF Dictionary

You can find it in the future on the Tools/Info menu, upper left on each page

343 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:15pm

Well, even though I activated my account a couple of days ago (I had registered in August, but stupidly had my spam filter turned on), I realize that I never properly introduced myself...so here goes:

I'm a Native New Yorker who can't afford to leave home, and am also an unemployed Architect who is studying in order to be registered. Knowledge seeking and travel are my 2 favorite passions in life. Overall, I'm a social liberal, a economic conservative, and a political moderate, which means that I am unaffiliated with any political party.

I rediscovered LGF a few months ago and have been hooked ever since! Thanks for having me here...

344 William of Orange  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:16pm

re: #310 Sharmuta

It will be nice having more lizards around who can help keep tabs on Wilders and the far right in Europe. I sure hoe you will chip in what you can.

Will do.

Sometimes he does have some popular views which are really talking sense. But that is quit a lot balanced out by the stupidity of other balloons he lets loose. Last gem he issued was a proposal to tax headscarfs. (Indeed, headgear often worn by Muslim women.)

His second in command in the chamber was caught drunk in a cafe near parliament. Alledgedly he punched a bartender but that is still in debate. At least he admitted he had a drinking problem.

345 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:24pm

re: #330 albusteve

the recession has bottomed out, Bernanke said so

He said that, but I just found out that my home is worth less than I paid for it. My payment has gone down, and so will my taxes but it still will make life a good bit harder for me. I'll be able to keep my head above water, but don't tell me things are sunshine and lollipops.

346 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:28pm

re: #339 Floridagirl

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

A wannabe troll.

347 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:42pm

re: #339 Floridagirl

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

Something like that. They're old commenters who got banned for whatever reason, attempting to re-register to spread vitriol and insult everybody. They really should try to move on...

348 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:54pm

I felt a wicked cool disturbance in the blogoshpere, as if millions of heads suddenly exploded. Nice.

Welcome.

ROTFLMAO!!!

I think I sprayed Coke on the monitor...


Again, thanks to all of you for the gracious welcome :)

349 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:00:56pm

re: #328 Naso Tang

You link to a Wiki article that reads like something written by Falun Gong.

The smell in the whole thing, (never mind the philosophical mishmash) is that there is a godlike leader with questionable background who lives in seclusion in the USA, as a multi millionaire. Anybody sense suckers in the there somewhere?

Sounds like Tiger Woods! :)

News aid today that Tiger had earned ONE BILLION DOLLARS in prize money, endorsements and the like. Hell, tax him, not us! He can afford it!

350 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:01:08pm

No. of hatchlings: 80

maplekarma
Grand Rants
Dante41
ofanass854
demzee
thickslab
Alllucky
General Winfield Stuck
ElectricPotty
BadCollie
Yui Ricdeau
former_secret_agent
Rata
gnostalgia
jaypro22
BadgerB
steeler1000
lwwillis
Banfield
rebel yell
Rascal One
bnorton49
mikhailtheplumber
pinback
JDRhoades
Luca Brasi
arbitraryName
Ugly John
saik0max0r
maxwellp
lastlaugh
lokithelion
Againandagain
pnw_pirate
wlewisiii
celticdragon
simoom
Floridagirl
ATM314
aussieguy
Boyo
webevintage
William of Orange
Mr Furious
robbiesam
SaloAbraxas
phyzzle
4 of 8
Udon
LEDocDave
Sled
whay912
walkman
PT Barnum
kraken
tverrall
Yossarian (The Spittoon)
sarabande
Sentient Puddle
Claydoh
Thon
Blue Fin
joejoe
Ed in NJ
agentx73
malmutt
janet Strange
ohpleaseno
Angie
danichi
Tachys
jag1ed
alaskeano
Fivepm
lastmanstanding
diamonda2u
aagcobb
Mr.Boots
Toots McGee
itsbarneysfault

No. of blocked socks: 18

Mr. Gluten
chicago112233
Margarit
agent007
mirele
Glutineous
Solozen
mirelle
Dr Searsucker
bozoZclown
CharlesIsAHypocrite
MichO
awgdooley
thatchernow
Fallout
Blaze From richmond
Cenrand
RJDTRUCKER

351 simoom  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:01:20pm

re: #307 HoosierHoops

What till it snows...I'm changing the Avatar to my dog floating around the swimming pool..( click me) To little Winston sitting in the hot tub with sun glasses on and a bud light light nearby ( I don't let him drink).. I dunno..He is the coolest dog and that's just the way I roll..*wink*
/Wait..I'm serious...

That's a great picture :)! What's that written on the side of the inflatable raft: "My Beepin' Boat?" :P

352 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:01:35pm

A sockpuppet is the online manifestation of a liar.

353 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:02:03pm

re: #342 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For the edification of those hatchlings (and newbies) who don't know about it ... check out the LGF Dictionary

You can find it in the future on the Tools/Info menu, upper left on each page

trying out the buttons

354 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:02:09pm

Sentient Puddle sounds nice.

355 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:02:31pm

re: #174 karmic_inquisitor

Fascists will always appropriate and exploit symbols.

Well, if they want to appropriate the Celtic cross to the point where they can say they own it, they are going to have to go through me and a lot of Irish, Welsh and Scots first.

They can have that stumpy Odin thing. The reason they like it is it's symmetrical and if you add on four ninety-degree appendages, you have a swastika. With the true Celtic cross, not so much.

356 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:02:48pm

re: #314 MandyManners

Madam, I'm Adam.

Race Car.

357 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:03:11pm

re: #325 celticdragon

Never post emails, or other personal info here. It's a rule. Good for your own peace of mind as well, a lot of hate filled scumbags scan these threads.

358 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:03:16pm
359 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:03:19pm

re: #349 SteveC

Sounds like Tiger Woods! :)

News aid today that Tiger had earned ONE BILLION DOLLARS in prize money, endorsements and the like. Hell, tax him, not us! He can afford it!

It's a religion. Remember how that helps tax preparation?

360 Jetpilot1101  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:03:37pm

re: #345 Dark_Falcon

He said that, but I just found out that my home is worth less than I paid for it. My payment has gone down, and so will my taxes but it still will make life a good bit harder for me. I'll be able to keep my head above water, but don't tell me things are sunshine and lollipops.

I dread the day the banks come clean on their toxic commercial real estate loans.

361 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:03:51pm

re: #332 Charles

The door has closed, with 80 hatchlings and 18 sock puppet attempts.

That's a pretty high sock ratio, no? Shows how desperate they are to share the love.

362 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:04:08pm

re: #315 BryanS

I wonder what postage rates would be if we turned the whole thing over to UPS and Fed Ex?

I would suspect that most people would be screaming to have the post office back in short order. Think of how much yelling went on when the PO floated a trial balloon about discontinuing Saturday service?

I also think there might be more unintended consequences in that the cost of mailing something would start reflecting where it was being mailed. It's costs a lot more to deliver mail to rural america than it does urban america, in that you are moving fewer pieces at one time.

So under what model would private enterprise be able to provide service at a price that wouldn't have a severely negative impact on the economy?

363 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:04:11pm

Oops. Feel free to edit that out of my last. My bad.

364 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:04:28pm

re: #314 MandyManners

Madam, I'm Adam.

"Ain't no other woman that's had 'im."

~The Tubes Circa 1976

365 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:04:50pm

re: #339 Floridagirl

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

Where would we be without Wikipedia?
Sockpuppet

366 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:04:59pm

re: #359 Naso Tang

Of course, PIMF applies. I was not talking of Tiger Woods.

367 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:05:16pm

re: #327 Dante41

Another reason why I joined here. Almost any other "conservative" blog apparently can't take an opposing viewpoint without bringing down the banhammer. Its like they are afraid that they might suddenly catch TEH KENYAN SOCIALISM!!1eleventy!

Two points, though I suspect you already know them.

1 -- It's called "a tough room" because one is expected to be able to back up, ie document, assertions with fact. Have links to reputable sources ready when posting something controversial.

2 -- Check out Avanti's karma. He's a gentleman and rational, (though I often don't agree with him) and it used to be about 12 miles south of zero.

368 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:05:52pm

re: #338 jvic

I always assumed they viewed it as an Aryan symbol. Incorrectly?

Interesting article on the subject from 2005.

Hindus reclaim their symbol of life

The swastika is a 5,000-year-old symbol that has been used for centuries by Hindus, Buddhists and many other traditions to denote good luck, but because of the Nazis it has come to symbolise hate, anti-Semitism, violence, death and murder. The campaign, announced today, comes after members of the European Parliament called for a Europe-wide ban on the symbol after Prince Harry wore a swastika armband to a fancy dress party.

...

Hindus use the right-facing version of the swastika, meaning “sun”, as jewellery or on doorways and buildings to bring good fortune. This was the version adopted by the Nazi Party in 1920 at Salzburg.

It is thought that Allied wartime propaganda is responsible for the false belief that at Hitler’s insistence the swastika was later reversed to the left-facing version, meaning “death” in Hindu mythology.

That last bit is what I thought.

369 JRCMYP  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:01pm

re: #112 John Neverbend

Yes, medieval and early modern history.

370 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:20pm

re: #361 Cato the Elder

That's a pretty high sock ratio, no? Shows how desperate they are to share the love.

I haven't compiled any results from older data, but was it really a lower SNR?

371 Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:23pm

Later.

372 wee fury  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:30pm

Welcome, newbies.

373 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:32pm

Took my wife out for birthday dinner tonight ... Laotian/Thai food ...

Chicken Satay
Vietnamese Fresh Rolls
Hot Basil Duck
Drunken Noodles with shrimp
Mango Chicken

Chateau Ste Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Outstanding!

374 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:06:52pm

re: #341 HoosierHoops

LOL
You don't think I'll put my dog in the Hot tub and take a picture?
Seriously? LOL
Oh crap it's on...
/Watching football tonight..Do not go there...
hope today finds you well Brat

oops, I should have PIMFed my earlier quip. I think I'm crocked (on milk and cookies, no less!)

Yes, I'm very well indeed.

375 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:03pm

Never post emails, or other personal info here. It's a rule. Good for your own peace of mind as well, a lot of hate filled scumbags scan these threads

Thanks for heads up.

376 What, me worry?  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:42pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

Took my wife out for birthday dinner tonight ... Laotian/Thai food ...

Chicken Satay
Vietnamese Fresh Rolls
Hot Basil Duck
Drunken Noodles with shrimp
Mango Chicken

Chateau Ste Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Outstanding!

What a nice husband you are. Pad Thai is my fav.

377 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:49pm

re: #339 Floridagirl

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

This is a sock puppet. Glenn Greenwald was a pioneer in the field.

378 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:51pm

re: #369 JRCMYP

Yes, medieval and early modern history.

When does early modern begin and end?

379 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:53pm

re: #339 Floridagirl

What is a sock puppet? A troll?

See my 342 re the LGF Dictionary

380 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:07:57pm

re: #356 Mich-again

Race Car.

race car...
Image: Camaro69SS34fr.jpg

381 SteveC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:08:45pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

Took my wife out for birthday dinner tonight ... Laotian/Thai food ...

Chicken Satay
Vietnamese Fresh Rolls
Hot Basil Duck
Drunken Noodles with shrimp
Mango Chicken

Chateau Ste Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Outstanding!

The last time I went to a nice place a bunch of drunken noodle came in, raising hell, pinchin' the waitresses and just generally being asses. The manager asked them to leave.

382 wee fury  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:09:03pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

"Hot Basil Duck" would be a good nic.

383 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:09:15pm

re: #376 marjoriemoon

What a nice husband you are. Pad Thai is my fav.

Thanks ... I try! Pad Thai is very good ... it's usually either that or the drunken noodles

384 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:09:33pm

Charles...

Please feel free to edit the email out of my post.

385 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:09:48pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

That sounds awesome. That reminds me that I need to fire up the grill here soon if I'm going to cook some lamb tonight.

386 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:10:23pm

re: #381 SteveC

The last time I went to a nice place a bunch of drunken noodle came in, raising hell, pinchin' the waitresses and just generally being asses. The manager asked them to leave.

sounds like a typical night in a boston bar!

387 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:10:34pm

re: #351 simoom

That's a great picture :)! What's that written on the side of the inflatable raft: "My Beepin' Boat?" :P

Good eyes! my beeping boat! You squeeze it and it beeps as you float around the pool...
That crazy dog floats around while I swim laps every Saturday during the summer and writing movie previews...I dunno..It's been a great 2 years here...
usually.. I get up on Saturdays..Eat, swim and enjoy you guys every Single frigging Saturday...
As long as I can do movie movie reviews every Saturday mornings befre most of you guys ever wake up..I never get down dinged...LOL

388 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:10:39pm

re: #326 The Sanity Inspector

But on the other hand they allowed private enterprise to take this "cool thing" and develop it further. That is what government does well, serve as an incubator.

I do happen to think that government is a good place for wacky ideas to be explored and then released into the wild so to speak.

389 Aye Pod  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:10:53pm

What a meltdown looks like in real life:

"She's tayamperd in dork-sahded stuff! Shey's naaht a ChristIAAAN!"

Youtube Video
390 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:01pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

That sounds awesome. That reminds me that I need to fire up the grill here soon if I'm going to cook some lamb tonight.

Ewe should feel sheepish about that!

391 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:11pm

re: #385 Killgore Trout

That sounds awesome. That reminds me that I need to fire up the grill here soon if I'm going to cook some lamb tonight.

you live near the Chateau Ste Michelle vineyard, dont you? Washington State?

392 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:12pm

re: #365 John Neverbend

Got it!

393 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:30pm

re: #375 celticdragon

No prob. LGF has a safe email function which will turn your nic blue as a link to whatever email addy you put in your profile. You should probably ask Charles to delete your post as well.

Seriously, there are people out there who have nothing better to do with there lives than sending threats and other garbage to people here.

394 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:42pm

re: #367 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Two points, though I suspect you already know them.

1 -- It's called "a tough room" because one is expected to be able to back up, ie document, assertions with fact. Have links to reputable sources ready when posting something controversial.

2 -- Check out Avanti's karma. He's a gentleman and rational, (though I often don't agree with him) and it used to be about 12 miles south of zero.

Don't worry. If I am going to make a controversial claim, I am going to back it up. This ain't Fark. Can't just backpedal and claim that you are trolling.

Now, my personal opinions are another matter. No matter how controversial(though still sane and polite), I won't back them up. Because that would mean quoting myself, and I am trying to keep my ego in check. ;-)

395 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:11:54pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyCC

hicken Satay
Vietnamese Fresh Rolls
Hot Basil Duck
Drunken Noodles with shrimp
Mango Chicken

Chateau Ste Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon 2004

Outstanding!

I went to my 15 YO's football game tonight. Had a hot dog, a piece of cold pizza, and some hot chocolate.

Outstanding!

396 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:12:06pm

OK Newbies- here are some search tips to help you learn more about LGF and issues we discuss around here:

Tag Storm
TagViewer

These you can find under the flippy triangle on the upper left side bar under Tools/Info.

There is also the Search in the upper right when you click "more options".

LGF is a great resource for a lot of various issues we all hold near and dear to our Liberty Lovin' Hearts.

397 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:12:30pm

re: #391 _RememberTonyC

I'm in Oregon. We do have a small wine region but I usually don't drink the locals wines. They're too expensive.

398 JRCMYP  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:12:43pm

re: #144 Occasional Reader

So then, you can answer the question:

Are they real?

/

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there are many more men than women here.

399 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:12:56pm

re: #370 John Neverbend

I haven't compiled any results from older data, but was it really a lower SNR?

I do believe so, yes, but I'm relying on notoriously faulty wetware memory.

400 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:04pm

re: #395 Mich-again

C


I went to my 15 YO's football game tonight. Had a hot dog, a piece of cold pizza, and some hot chocolate.

Outstanding!


who won the game?

401 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:11pm

re: #362 PT Barnum

I wonder what postage rates would be if we turned the whole thing over to UPS and Fed Ex?

I would suspect that most people would be screaming to have the post office back in short order. Think of how much yelling went on when the PO floated a trial balloon about discontinuing Saturday service?

They scream because they have no other choice. I can stop by a Kinkos or (former) Mailbox Etc on a Saturday and conduct my business with them. The reason they want to drop Saturdays is that people are finding ways to do business without the post office and they are losing money faster than ever.


I also think there might be more unintended consequences in that the cost of mailing something would start reflecting where it was being mailed. It's costs a lot more to deliver mail to rural america than it does urban america, in that you are moving fewer pieces at one time.

What's wrong with charging more for delivering to more expensive places? I conveniently receive mail every day that I check every couple weeks--I'm a bit lazy that way. Have I ever received anything by mail that I couldn't wait for, or that I couldn't deal with electronically (in the past few years, anyway)? If you live out in the sticks, I bet you have to drive to town once a week to pick up your groceries. Why not pick up your mail at the in town PO box at the same time?


So under what model would private enterprise be able to provide service at a price that wouldn't have a severely negative impact on the economy?

You assume the post office has anything to do with the economy these days. It no longer does.

402 walkman  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:13pm

Newbie (hatchling) here. I'm a conservative. Hope to be around for a while. Promise never to use ad hominems.

Actually just bought tickets to see the Black Crowes tommorow night. See, we can enjoy ourselves.

403 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:16pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

I'm in Oregon. We do have a small wine region but I usually don't drink the locals wines. They're too expensive.

Is Witness Tree still in operation?

404 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:38pm

re: #398 JRCMYP

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that there are many more men than women here.

But beware of the women who are here.

405 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:13:44pm

It's a very bad idea to post your email address in a comment here unless you really like spam.

406 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:02pm

Welcome to the collective Winston Churchill, new Lizards.

And, in my opinion, this is a humor site also, feel free to pitch in & make it very fun to read.

Back later !

407 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:20pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

I'm in Oregon. We do have a small wine region but I usually don't drink the locals wines. They're too expensive.

rarity...wine made right here down the road from me is very expensive...and they've been making wine here for 400 years...what gives?...hoity toity

408 JRCMYP  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:52pm

re: #362 PT Barnum

I wonder what postage rates would be if we turned the whole thing over to UPS and Fed Ex?

I would suspect that most people would be screaming to have the post office back in short order. Think of how much yelling went on when the PO floated a trial balloon about discontinuing Saturday service?

I also think there might be more unintended consequences in that the cost of mailing something would start reflecting where it was being mailed. It's costs a lot more to deliver mail to rural america than it does urban america, in that you are moving fewer pieces at one time.

So under what model would private enterprise be able to provide service at a price that wouldn't have a severely negative impact on the economy?

I own a small business, and spent a helluva lot of money last year on shipping costs. In the exact words of my accountant "How's a girl supposed to make any money??"

409 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:52pm

re: #394 Dante41

Don't worry. If I am going to make a controversial claim, I am going to back it up. This ain't Fark. Can't just backpedal and claim that you are trolling.

Now, my personal opinions are another matter. No matter how controversial(though still sane and polite), I won't back them up. Because that would mean quoting myself, and I am trying to keep my ego in check. ;-)

Figured you did already. Sometimes I toss those out when I'm on a registration thread. Someone "did that for me once", but they were actually commenting to someone else.

410 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:53pm

re: #402 walkman

See, we can enjoy ourselves.

Not yet, you can't. Where the hell is my damn Guinness?
/

411 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:14:54pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

I'm in Oregon. We do have a small wine region but I usually don't drink the locals wines. They're too expensive.

San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich is a partner in an oregon vineyard. They make a really good Pinot Noir ... appx $20/bottle. It's the "A to Z Vineyard." Try the pinot, it's pretty good

412 Floridagirl  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:10pm

re: #396 Sharmuta

Tag storm...cool

413 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:19pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

Yes but have you ever had

Hickory Daiquiri Duck?

414 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:21pm

re: #373 _RememberTonyC

Pad Thai...yum...

Now I'm going to have to go have some when I go back to work on Monday...Curse you!

415 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:52pm

re: #399 Cato the Elder

I do believe so, yes, but I'm relying on notoriously faulty wetware memory.

As an exercise in nerdiness, I ought to go through the old threads and look at the SNR.

416 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:54pm

If you want people to be able to email you, click the little checkbox that says "Show email" in the comment form. Then your username becomes a link to our bot-proof email script.

417 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:15:59pm

re: #413 Ojoe

Yes but have you ever had

Hickory Daiquiri Duck?

SMACK!

418 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:16:34pm

re: #416 Charles

If you want people to be able to email you, click the little checkbox that says "Show email" in the comment form. Then your username becomes a link to our bot-proof email script.

Thank you for that feature, BTW.

420 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:16:46pm

re: #396 Sharmuta

OK Newbies- here are some search tips to help you learn more about LGF and issues we discuss around here:

Tag Storm
TagViewer

These you can find under the flippy triangle on the upper left side bar under Tools/Info.

There is also the Search in the upper right when you click "more options".

LGF is a great resource for a lot of various issues we all hold near and dear to our Liberty Lovin' Hearts.

psst, did y' tell'm about th' COOKBOOK?!

421 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:16:56pm

re: #413 Ojoe

Yes but have you ever had

Hickory Daiquiri Duck?

this sounds like an Andrew Dice Clay poem is about to happen

422 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:01pm

re: #400 _RememberTonyC

We won big tonight. The kid got a TD on a nice run. He's a 10th grader playing Varsity and starting both ways. Kind of a new program so they need the younger kids to play Varsity.

423 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:19pm

re: #410 Slumbering Behemoth

Not yet, you can't. Where the hell is my damn Guinness?
/

Mine is cooling nicely in the refrigerator. To think that I used to drink it at room temperature.

424 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:29pm

re: #414 PT Barnum

Pad Thai...yum...

Now I'm going to have to go have some when I go back to work on Monday...Curse you!

why wait?

425 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:33pm

re: #321 abbyadams

A man, a plan, a canal, panama.

Freakin' awesome!

426 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:33pm

re: #421 _RememberTonyC

It's smoked mallard on a bed of ice, with rum.

427 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:38pm

re: #402 walkman

Welcome.

428 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:17:54pm

re: #416 Charles

Thanks for the tip...
:-)

429 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:18:00pm

Oops. 103 behind.

430 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:18:20pm

re: #422 Mich-again

We won big tonight. The kid got a TD on a nice run. He's a 10th grader playing Varsity and starting both ways. Kind of a new program so they need the younger kids to play Varsity.

whoa...three seasons ahead of you...the best years of my kid life, right there bro

431 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:18:28pm

re: #422 Mich-again

We won big tonight. The kid got a TD on a nice run. He's a 10th grader playing Varsity and starting both ways. Kind of a new program so they need the younger kids to play Varsity.

awesome ... congrats ... my younger son is in 11th grade

432 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:19:06pm

re: #337 Occasional Reader

Doc note: I dissent. A fast never prevents a fatness. I diet on cod.

I bow before the master.

433 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:19:20pm

re: #426 Ojoe

It's smoked mallard on a bed of ice, with rum.

sounds great

434 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:19:25pm

re: #402 walkman

I once referred to my daughter's iPod as a Walkman and she looked at me funny. Whats a Walkman?

435 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:19:30pm

Aw, nuts.

436 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:20:24pm

re: #364 _RememberTonyC

"Ain't no other woman that's had 'im."

~The Tubes Circa 1976

Stronger than a tree -- that apple tree over there.

437 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:20:33pm

re: #434 Mich-again

I once referred to my daughter's iPod as a Walkman and she looked at me funny. Whats a Walkman?

It's what you tell your STBX when you have him served with divorce papers.

438 jvic  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:20:38pm

re: #368 marjoriemoon

Interesting article on the subject from 2005.

Hindus reclaim their symbol of life

The swastika is a 5,000-year-old symbol that has been used for centuries by Hindus, Buddhists and many other traditions to denote good luck, but because of the Nazis it has come to symbolise hate, anti-Semitism, violence, death and murder. The campaign, announced today, comes after members of the European Parliament called for a Europe-wide ban on the symbol after Prince Harry wore a swastika armband to a fancy dress party.

...

Hindus use the right-facing version of the swastika, meaning “sun”, as jewellery or on doorways and buildings to bring good fortune. This was the version adopted by the Nazi Party in 1920 at Salzburg.

It is thought that Allied wartime propaganda is responsible for the false belief that at Hitler’s insistence the swastika was later reversed to the left-facing version, meaning “death” in Hindu mythology.

That last bit is what I thought.

Heh. A key part of the culture wars is battling over who has the right to use a word to mean what. I see it's not restricted to the USA.
*** *** ***
Btw, it's my impression that theocratic Indian society was developed by Dravidians who are related to Australian aborigines. The "Aryans" were light-skinned conquerors who installed themselves in the top castes. (It always seemed weird that the Shah reminded me of Krishnamurti.)

It's also my impression that the foregoing interpretation of history is being revisited.

439 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:21:08pm

re: #419 Conservative Moonbat

Woman Fails in Legal Attempt to Get Child Support From Anonymous Sperm Donor

Thank goodness that one failed. Allowing a child support claim would have thrown contract law to the wind, and exposed a great many men to liability.

440 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:21:24pm

re: #410 Slumbering Behemoth

Not yet, you can't. Where the hell is my damn Guinness?
/

Oi, I can't buy you beer. The Coast Guard is hovering outside, waiting for something to fine for and deny me my license(thanks a smegging bunch, "Captian" Hazelwood).

Now, I can set you up with the dude that somehow hide a still somewhere on campus, but I don't think you are in the mood for moonshine.

441 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:21:47pm

Sanity Inspector

How about posting a YouTube video of your harp playing, or your Revolutionary War re-enacting? Have you been in any Battles of King's Mountain?

I am leery about posting videos because of stalker issues. I have had problems with people who just don't like the idea of GLBT people being parents and I don't wish to show some of these goons what I look like if I can help it. My wife has been harassed on the job by a couple of fundamentalist Baptist preachers after we appeared on a public access tv show in a Q&A forum, and that was the end of that.

I haven't been to King's Mountain yet. I have been to House in the Horseshoe, Guilford Courthouse, and Ransour's Mill. Ransour's Mill was a blast, but I discovered it is a very bad idea to "die" while out in the sun...

It gets hot real fast, and you just have to lay there and sweat until the shooting stops. I also found out that Brown Bess muskets get frakkin' hot after 12 volleys!

442 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:15pm

re: #436 bratwurst

Stronger than a tree -- that apple tree over there.


NICE

443 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:21pm

re: #364 _RememberTonyC

"Ain't no other woman that's had 'im."

~The Tubes Circa 1976

Did he have a navel?

444 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:24pm

re: #437 MandyManners

It's what you tell your STBX when you have him served with divorce papers.

In your case Mandy, I'm surprised you didn't kick the jerk in the balls.

445 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:27pm
446 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:28pm

re: #430 albusteve

And the football field is surrounded by a corn field. I suggested to the coach they should come from out of the corn when they walk onto the field before the game. If you build it, they'll come.

447 brennk2  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:29pm

re: #239 Sharmuta

I'm really glad to know we have a new member who is against the homophobia we tend to see on the right. I can only speak for myself when I say I welcome your voice in that discussion here (though I don't think I'm alone).

Where do I recall seeing all those non-work enviroment photos from the Gay Pride event in San Fran a few months back?

448 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:22:46pm

Correction: our relatively bot-proof email script.


re: #438 jvic


Sorry, but Hindus need to find a new symbol. The swastika is never going to be a symbol of anything but the Third Reich, and I have absolutely no sympathy for attempts to "reclaim" it.

449 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:02pm

re: #286 ohpleaseno

*POP*

I'm as liberal as they come, but I enjoy the hell out of this site. It's like reading an opposing viewpoint without wanting to punch the monitor.

Now, that made me laugh out loud! Loved it.
Welcome, from one of the remaining conservatives.

450 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:05pm

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451 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:10pm

re: #438 jvic

Heh. A key part of the culture wars is battling over who has the right to use a word to mean what. I see it's not restricted to the USA.
*** *** ***
Btw, it's my impression that theocratic Indian society was developed by Dravidians who are related to Australian aborigines. The "Aryans" were light-skinned conquerors who installed themselves in the top castes. (It always seemed weird that the Shah reminded me of Krishnamurti.)

It's also my impression that the foregoing interpretation of history is being revisited.

Are the Dravidians in any way related to the Branch Dravidians ./:)

452 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:26pm

Flounce!

453 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:42pm

re: #439 Dark_Falcon

Thank goodness that one failed. Allowing a child support claim would have thrown contract law to the wind, and exposed a great many men to liability.

Then a potential donor would be forced to deny them his essence.

454 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:23:49pm

re: #443 MandyManners

Did he have a navel?

just an adam's apple

455 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:24:00pm

re: #452 Charles

Flounce!


A very polite flounce.

456 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:24:10pm

re: #290 Cato the Elder

Of the 54 images on the first three pages of your "Odin's Cross" search, there are five that fit my definition of a Celtic cross.

Seems the "interchangeability" is not so great as some might claim. In my opinion the German ban is bad law.

You may be technically correct concerning the distinguishing features, but with all due respect that is entirely besides the point. The appropriation and use of the Odin's and Celtic crosses by neo-nazis has been discussed and documented here before, and it is the fact of such usage which renders the display of the Odin's and Celtic crosses problematic. IIRC of particular concern has been the use of these as avatars here in the past, which not only upset lizards but also risked harm to the good image of this site.

457 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:24:13pm

re: #407 albusteve

rarity...wine made right here down the road from me is very expensive...and they've been making wine here for 400 years...what gives?...hoity toity

LOL
Listen bro.. I grew up in the middle of Napa Valley in Yountville...
I swear I've tried to call out Wine snobs here..But alas...Everyone has been kind damn it...We have a wonderful community at LGF...No snobs so far..
* Dear Lord*
Please let somebody talk trash about clarity and Tannins here...Please God..LOL
Really...I'm just teasing...Although if somebody trashes BV I'll freak out...
LOL

458 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:24:20pm

re: #450 Sharmuta

Hey Newbies! Did you know there is an LGF Cookbook? There is!

LGF COOKBOOK

The first cookbook is available now, and the second edition is already being prepared for publishing, so we're not looking for new recipes at this point. I am planning on discussing a 3rd book with our Reine.De.Tout as some other Lizards have expressed an interest to contribute more recipes. Please check it out, and consider purchasing a cookbook. Proceeds go to LGF and Soldier's Angels. Thanks!

*This message brought to you by the LGF Cookbook Brute Squad*

And if they're quick, they may be able to get in THEIR VERY OWN RECIPE into Volume 2. Please check the link (click my nic) and you will see a list of which categories are "short".

459 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:24:33pm

re: #441 celticdragon

Sanity Inspector

How about posting a YouTube video of your harp playing, or your Revolutionary War re-enacting? Have you been in any Battles of King's Mountain?

I am leery about posting videos because of stalker issues. I have had problems with people who just don't like the idea of GLBT people being parents and I don't wish to show some of these goons what I look like if I can help it. My wife has been harassed on the job by a couple of fundamentalist Baptist preachers after we appeared on a public access tv show in a Q&A forum, and that was the end of that.

I haven't been to King's Mountain yet. I have been to House in the Horseshoe, Guilford Courthouse, and Ransour's Mill. Ransour's Mill was a blast, but I discovered it is a very bad idea to "die" while out in the sun...

It gets hot real fast, and you just have to lay there and sweat until the shooting stops. I also found out that Brown Bess muskets get frakkin' hot after 12 volleys!

Fucking savages. Why are so many Christians so unlike Christ?

460 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:25:26pm

re: #442 _RememberTonyC

NICE

What do you want from life?

461 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:25:31pm

re: #446 Mich-again

And the football field is surrounded by a corn field. I suggested to the coach they should come from out of the corn when they walk onto the field before the game. If you build it, they'll come.

our school had corn fields and woods around two sides, very scenic...small village, but every home game was 2500 avid fans...we played schools with bigger crowds too...we were very good and my kid was in the center of it all...dream come true for me

462 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:25:59pm

re: #434 Mich-again

I once referred to my daughter's iPod as a Walkman and she looked at me funny. Whats a Walkman?

The other day I found myself explaining to my 8-year old what a typewriter is. Was.

463 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:11pm

re: #423 John Neverbend

I actually don't mind room temp. Guinness. I like it better cold, but unlike many other beers out there, it doesn't get bad enough to gag a maggot at room temp.

464 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:18pm

re: #457 HoosierHoops

LOL
Listen bro.. I grew up in the middle of Napa Valley in Yountville...
I swear I've tried to call out Wine snobs here..But alas...Everyone has been kind damn it...We have a wonderful community at LGF...No snobs so far..
* Dear Lord*
Please let somebody talk trash about clarity and Tannins here...Please God..LOL
Really...I'm just teasing...Although if somebody trashes BV I'll freak out...
LOL


BV Coastal Cab is a good $10 bottle!

465 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:20pm

re: #448 Charles

Correction: our relatively bot-proof email script.

Sorry, but Hindus need to find a new symbol. The swastika is never going to be a symbol of anything but the Third Reich, and I have absolutely no sympathy for attempts to "reclaim" it.

Thank you Charles.

466 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:33pm

re: #440 Dante41

Oi, I can't buy you beer. The Coast Guard is hovering outside, waiting for something to fine for and deny me my license(thanks a smegging bunch, "Captian" Hazelwood).

Now, I can set you up with the dude that somehow hide a still somewhere on campus, but I don't think you are in the mood for moonshine.

You are going in the merchant marine?
GET . A . LIFE ... ... ... (teasing there)

Navy. Aircraft carrier off Vietnam, mid-Sixties.

We had guys making wine in the stockroom across from the avionics shop I worked in. And on one cruise, th' revenoors busted a still down in #3 Fireroom.

467 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:53pm

re: #459 Dante41

Fucking savages. Why are so many Christians so unlike Christ?

...because humans are human, and Humans are Bastards?

468 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:26:55pm

re: #455 Mich-again

A very polite flounce.

Correction:

A very polite passive aggressive flounce.

469 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #460 bratwurst

What do you want from life?

To kidnap an heiress
or threaten her with a knife

470 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:27:20pm

re: #419 Conservative Moonbat

Woman Fails in Legal Attempt to Get Child Support From Anonymous Sperm Donor

I'm all for the medical records to be open but, her effort to get CS is unmitigated gall.

471 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:27:25pm

re: #389 Jimmah

What a meltdown looks like in real life:

"She's tayamperd in dork-sahded stuff! Shey's naaht a ChristIAAAN!

LOL. "Git the hayell out of mah house...in Jesus' name ah pray!"

[shaking threatening finger] "They will be on mah prayah list till the day ah dah!" (Goddess of the Classroom, is that you?)

I have never felt so scared.

And the look on the youngest daughter's face while her lardy bug-eyed mother goes berserk and berserker... "Daddy, can I go stay with the nice astrology lady? Please?"

472 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:27:37pm

re: #369 JRCMYP

Yes, medieval and early modern history.

Great! I work on Latin American modern history.

473 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:27:47pm

re: #449 reine.de.tout

And there she is! Reine, Equable has assured me he'd contribute to a third book- are you up for it?

474 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:28:00pm

re: #441 celticdragon

Sanity Inspector

How about posting a YouTube video of your harp playing, or your Revolutionary War re-enacting? Have you been in any Battles of King's Mountain?

I am leery about posting videos because of stalker issues. I have had problems with people who just don't like the idea of GLBT people being parents and I don't wish to show some of these goons what I look like if I can help it. My wife has been harassed on the job by a couple of fundamentalist Baptist preachers after we appeared on a public access tv show in a Q&A forum, and that was the end of that.

I haven't been to King's Mountain yet. I have been to House in the Horseshoe, Guilford Courthouse, and Ransour's Mill. Ransour's Mill was a blast, but I discovered it is a very bad idea to "die" while out in the sun...

It gets hot real fast, and you just have to lay there and sweat until the shooting stops. I also found out that Brown Bess muskets get frakkin' hot after 12 volleys!

Interesting! As for the harp, you can just post an audio track, no need for a clip with your picture in it. Please consider it!

475 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:28:39pm

re: #444 Dark_Falcon

In your case Mandy, I'm surprised you didn't kick the jerk in the balls.

I let the legal process do it. Much safer and less messy.

476 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:28:50pm

re: #462 The Sanity Inspector

The other day I found myself explaining to my 8-year old what a typewriter is. Was.

The inspiration for the ding?

477 Fenris  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:28:55pm

So proud of myself. I baked a challah from scratch today for the first time. And it is delicious.

478 Aye Pod  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:29:00pm

In The Name Of Jesus, STOP IT!

Youtube Video

I had nothing to do with this, I swear ;-)

479 Flyers1974  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:29:31pm

re: #449 reine.de.tout

Now, that made me laugh out loud! Loved it.
Welcome, from one of the remaining conservatives.

I'm curious what the Con/Lib/other breakdown is today. Sometimes it seems 4-1 in the cons favor, at other times closer to even or numerical advantage libs. And then there are those that can't easily be put on one side or the other.

480 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:29:33pm

re: #463 Slumbering Behemoth

I actually don't mind room temp. Guinness. I like it better cold, but unlike many other beers out there, it doesn't get bad enough to gag a maggot at room temp.

The draft in a can or bottle really has to be served very cold, to get the full benefit of the widget. The extra stout becomes quite intolerable to me as the temperature rises above about 15 centigrade. When I was an undergraduate, there was even a Guinness XXX which was like extra stout with all the water turned into alcohol and several times more bitter. A friend of mine described it as "weasel's piss strained through a mouldy old balaclava helmet". Oddly enough, it tasted just like that.

481 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:29:36pm

re: #467 davinvalkri

...because humans are human, and Humans are Bastards?

Oh, no. I am NOT clicking that link. I don't not want to be stuck there all night.

482 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:30:01pm

re: #450 Sharmuta

*LGF Cookbook Brute Squad*

Oh Sharmie!
I just LOVE muscles on a woman!
*swoon*

/*jumping up and running like hell*

483 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:30:31pm

re: #401 BryanS

You assume the post office has anything to do with the economy these days. It no longer does.

I think that's an assertion I'd have to see actual evidence for other than your say so.

I can think of several industries that would be severely hurt because they depend on bulk mail or on standardized pricing no matter where the material is being sent.

Direct Marketing
Print Media
Mail order companies
Ebay (some things are much less expensive to ship via USPS than UPS YMMV)

484 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:30:32pm

re: #481 Dante41

Oh, no. I am NOT clicking that link. I don't not want to be stuck there all night.

That's some shur-fine book learnin' der, Dante.

485 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:30:36pm

re: #447 brennk2

You probably shouldn't be bragging about your pr0n surfing habits here. Just sayin'.
/

486 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:30:37pm

re: #456 Spare O'Lake

You may be technically correct concerning the distinguishing features, but with all due respect that is entirely besides the point. The appropriation and use of the Odin's and Celtic crosses by neo-nazis has been discussed and documented here before, and it is the fact of such usage which renders the display of the Odin's and Celtic crosses problematic. IIRC of particular concern has been the use of these as avatars here in the past, which not only upset lizards but also risked harm to the good image of this site.

Well I'll continue to display my Celtic cross every day of my life, and honi soit qui mal y pense.

487 That's Banned Sockpuppet [With Turrets] to you  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:31:19pm

re: #468 Charles

A very polite passive aggressive flounce.

Time for the Passive Aggressive Sockpuppet Poem

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I could rhyme the next line
But I refuse to.

488 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:31:23pm

re: #424 _RememberTonyC

cause I live in the boondocks and the closest Thai restaurant is 70 miles away.

489 walkman  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:31:36pm

re: #434 Mich-again

From what I hear, they are actually making a comeback of sorts. I still have mine.

490 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:32:04pm

re: #486 Cato the Elder

Well I'll continue to display my Celtic cross every day of my life, and honi soit qui mal y pense.

And I've never had anybody misunderstand its meaning. I continue to think the equation between Odin's and Celtic is overstated.

491 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:32:05pm

re: #481 Dante41

Oh, no. I am NOT clicking that link. I don't want to be stuck there all night.

Joooinnn usss...

492 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:32:27pm

re: #488 PT Barnum

cause I live in the boondocks and the closest Thai restaurant is 70 miles away.

BUMMER ... sorry to hear that

493 Aye Pod  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:32:46pm

re: #471 Cato the Elder

LOL. "Git the hayell out of mah house...in Jesus' name ah pray!"

[shaking threatening finger] "They will be on mah prayah list till the day ah dah!" (Goddess of the Classroom, is that you?)

I have never felt so scared.

And the look on the youngest daughter's face while her lardy bug-eyed mother goes berserk and berserker... "Daddy, can I go stay with the nice astrology lady? Please?"

LOL re GOTC comment :)

Totally, Cato. I felt really sorry for those kids. The 'astrology lady' had a very positive effect on that family while she was there IIRC.

494 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:32:53pm

re: #487 That's Banned Sockpuppet [With Turrets] to you

Time for the Passive Aggressive Sockpuppet Poem

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I could rhyme the next line
But I refuse to.

I've been meaning to ask: How does a sock have turrets?

495 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:33:18pm

re: #396 Sharmuta

Thanks for the tips! I've spent time searching around for things on the site just to make sure protocol is followed and that I know what/how to do things.
Like my nic...I sometimes get distracted by the shinny...:>)

496 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:33:18pm

re: #471 Cato the Elder

LOL. "Git the hayell out of mah house...in Jesus' name ah pray!"

[shaking threatening finger] "They will be on mah prayah list till the day ah dah!" (Goddess of the Classroom, is that you?)

I have never felt so scared.

And the look on the youngest daughter's face while her lardy bug-eyed mother goes berserk and berserker... "Daddy, can I go stay with the nice astrology lady? Please?"

OMG.
I thought it was a skit.
It was real.
OMG.
OMG
OMG.

497 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:33:34pm

re: #482 pre-Boomer Marine brat

cr*p, I hope she takes that as (an attempt at) humor!

498 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:33:39pm

re: #466 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You are going in the merchant marine?
GET . A . LIFE ... ... ... (teasing there)

Navy. Aircraft carrier off Vietnam, mid-Sixties.

We had guys making wine in the stockroom across from the avionics shop I worked in. And on one cruise, th' revenoors busted a still down in #3 Fireroom.

We cruised the backroads in the Valley and stole 55 gallons barrels of grapes in Oct. and made our own wine in College...
/so sue us..LOL
Hi brat!

499 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:33:44pm

re: #483 PT Barnum

I think that's an assertion I'd have to see actual evidence for other than your say so.

I can think of several industries that would be severely hurt because they depend on bulk mail or on standardized pricing no matter where the material is being sent.

Direct Marketing
Print Media
Mail order companies
Ebay (some things are much less expensive to ship via USPS than UPS YMMV)

Not to be a nit-picking bitch but, Nos. 1 and 3 are part of the print media.

500 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:34:04pm

re: #469 _RememberTonyC

To kidnap an heiress
or threaten her with a knife

Probably my favorite:

In my mind I feel this world is small
I think I'd like to see some more
Looking through the eyes of one who knows
The world is small but I could make it grow

501 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:34:18pm

re: #487 That's Banned Sockpuppet [With Turrets] to you

Time for the Passive Aggressive Sockpuppet Poem

Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
I could rhyme the next line
But I refuse to.

I LOVE IT!

502 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:34:37pm

re: #457 HoosierHoops

Please let somebody talk trash about clarity and Tannins here...

Unless those are the two parts of wine that are responsible for getting me fucked up, you probably won't be hearing me say anything about them.

/Holy shit, dude. These Tannins have me seeing double.

503 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:34:52pm

re: #489 walkman

From what I hear, they are actually making a comeback of sorts. I still have mine.

I don't even have a cassette player anymore but I need to get one so I can listen to my old Martha and the Muffins cassettes.

504 pizza  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:35:02pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Back up a minute. I've got an important question.

Since when is Guilford "upscale?" Washington & Lee, maybe. But Guilford? Please.

505 Rascal One  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:35:20pm

My first post and already a question

what is the 'remember me' thingy do at login? does that keep me logged in?

506 That's Banned Sockpuppet [With Turrets] to you  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:35:22pm

re: #494 Dark_Falcon

I've been meaning to ask: How does a sock have turrets?

I am usually passive

[but then my damned turrets comes out in the square brackets. Is that OK with you assh*le?]

/ <---

507 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:35:30pm

re: #486 Cato the Elder

Well I'll continue to display my Celtic cross every day of my life, and honi soit qui mal y pense.


Particularly if you wear it on your leg.//

508 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:35:56pm

re: #494 Dark_Falcon

I've been meaning to ask: How does a sock have turrets?

You've never heard of tube socks?

509 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:36:05pm

re: #466 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You are going in the merchant marine?
GET . A . LIFE ... ... ... (teasing there)

Navy. Aircraft carrier off Vietnam, mid-Sixties.

We had guys making wine in the stockroom across from the avionics shop I worked in. And on one cruise, th' revenoors busted a still down in #3 Fireroom.

Hey, I did mention it like three times ;-) Well, I have always wanted to be a ship's captain since I read about the Titanic at age five(I know, I know). See the world, be master onto all aboard ship below God and all that. It was merely cemented when I found out how much ships officers get paid these days.

Although, I think I am going to spend a few months volunteering for Mercy Ships after I get my license. Give back to the world, ya know?

510 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:37:22pm

re: #500 bratwurst

Probably my favorite:

In my mind I feel this world is small
I think I'd like to see some more
Looking through the eyes of one who knows
The world is small but I could make it grow


Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?

511 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:37:36pm

re: #495 UP Border Collie

We have a LP Bearded Collie. But I bet money your Border Collie is smarter than that dummy.

512 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:37:44pm

re: #498 HoosierHoops

We cruised the backroads in the Valley and stole 55 gallons barrels of grapes in Oct. and made our own wine in College...
/so sue us..LOL
Hi brat!

Would you believe that I once tried smoking corn silks?
In a pipe.
And I didn't let them dry out first.

/truth ... damn, I don't know how I survived!

513 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:37:51pm

re: #471 Cato the Elder

And the look on the youngest daughter's face while her lardy bug-eyed mother goes berserk and berserker... "Daddy, can I go stay with the nice astrology lady? Please?"

Better to stay with the satanists one block over, they have a much better music collection.
/

514 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:38:16pm

re: #504 pizza

Back up a minute. I've got an important question.

Since when is Guilford "upscale?" Washington & Lee, maybe. But Guilford? Please.

Not to be a nit-picking bitch but:

Karma: 0
Registered since: Jan 10, 2009 at 9:03 pm
(Logged in)

No. of comments posted: 1
No. of links posted: 0

515 Gearhead  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:38:23pm

re: #494 Dark_Falcon

I've been meaning to ask: How does a sock have turrets?

Armored socks with articulated toes?

516 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:38:50pm

re: #505 Rascal One

My first post and already a question

what is the 'remember me' thingy do at login? does that keep me logged in?

Yes.

517 jvic  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:39:16pm

re: #448 Charles

Sorry, but Hindus need to find a new symbol. The swastika is never going to be a symbol of anything but the Third Reich, and I have absolutely no sympathy for attempts to "reclaim" it.

Wrt to its use in Western countries, I completely agree. Hadn't meant to imply otherwise.

I don't know how common it was in India, or how integral it is to Hinduism. If it were revived as a smartass expression of "anticolonialism" or in the spirit of "Piss Chr*st" or other passive aggressiveness, I'd be furious. Up to and including boycotts and trade wars. To put it mildly, I do not appreciate Falun Gong using it and then seeking support in the West.

Given the blood and horror soaked into the symbol, I hope that nonWesterners have the sensitivity to refrain from it in their own countries.

518 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:39:25pm

re: #480 John Neverbend

The draft in a can or bottle really has to be served very cold, to get the full benefit of the widget. The extra stout becomes quite intolerable to me as the temperature rises above about 15 centigrade. When I was an undergraduate, there was even a Guinness XXX which was like extra stout with all the water turned into alcohol and several times more bitter. A friend of mine described it as "weasel's piss strained through a mouldy old balaclava helmet". Oddly enough, it tasted just like that.

My question is what experience had you had to verify that he was right?

I always wonder that when somebody says "This tastes like shit!" How do they know?

Of course when my wife says she feels like shit I offer to go to the store and get her some...I have to duck a lot at my house.

519 Rascal One  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:40:04pm

re: #516 pre-Boomer Marine brat

thankyouverymuch

520 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:40:05pm

REPLACEMENT WINDOWS

Last year I replaced all the windows in my house with that expensive double-pane energy efficient kind, and today, I got a call from the contractor who installed them. He was complaining that the work had been completed a whole year ago and I still hadn't paid for them.

Helllooo...just because I'm blonde doesn't mean that I am automatically stupid. So, I told him just what his fast talking sales guy had told me last year: that in ONE YEAR these windows would pay for themselves!

So I told him Helllooo... It's been a year...they should have already paid for themselves!

There was only silence at the other end of the line, so I finally just hung up. He never called back. I bet he felt like an idiot.

521 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:40:45pm

BV? B frickin' V?!

I mean- yeah they're alright... compared to Maddog 20/20 or Franzia! Someone tries to bring that crap into my house... I say, "You go back to the liquor store and find me something drinkable and French, you cheap Bastard!"

/Teasing my {Hoops}

522 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:40:50pm

re: #506 That's Banned Sockpuppet [With Turrets] to you

I am usually passive

[but then my damned turrets comes out in the square brackets. Is that OK with you assh*le?]

/ <---

It's fine by me. What sort of firepower are your turrets packing? I'm thinking a pair of Particle Projector Cannons (PPCs).

523 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:40:57pm

Dante

Why are so many Christians so unlike Christ?

They have nothing better to do, perhaps? I have no idea. I came out of the Libertarian Goldwater "Sagebrush Rebellion" branch of the Republican Party. California, Arizona and Nevada. Leave my land alone, leave my guns alone and leave ME alone!

The social conservatives grabbed the reins, and...wtf??!

Now we have busybody moralizing scolds who want to use the coercive power of the government to FORCE their social and religious dogmas on everybody because THEY KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL OF US!


When nanny state moral coercion proceeds under the guise of "conservatism", then the very term 'conservative' has ceased to have any meaning. Hence, I no longer call myself a conservative.

524 Angie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:41:49pm

Hi Lizards,

I came across this blog a couple of weeks ago, and I've been reading it daily, ever since. I've been very impressed with how Charles is speaking out against the current barrage of crazies, that seem to be becoming more mainstream each day. I give him a lot of credit for doing so...I have to be honest, it's getting down right scary out there!

I live in NY, and am a Liberal, married to a Conservative. Currently, we are both trying to find the Center...If one currently even exits.

It's nice to be part of the LGF community.

525 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:41:54pm

re: #509 Dante41

FYI, HAL2010 is British, and serves on a merchant marine ship.

526 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:42:14pm

re: #483 PT Barnum

I think that's an assertion I'd have to see actual evidence for other than your say so.

I can think of several industries that would be severely hurt because they depend on bulk mail or on standardized pricing no matter where the material is being sent.

Direct Marketing
Print Media
Mail order companies
Ebay (some things are much less expensive to ship via USPS than UPS YMMV)

Direct Marketing--wouldn't mind if they went away. These SOBs account for most of my mail anyway--mail I don't want. They are about the only thing keeping the USPS afloat these days. That and the taxpayers.

Print media-- going away fast...should just go online. It's cheaper than print. Why subsidize wasting all that paper/killing all those trees?

Mail order companies/Ebay--can still deliver via UPS or Fed Ex.

The USPS is an outmoded, expensive, and unnecessary organization that has outlived its usefulness. It encourages the wasting of paper, energy, and taxes. Shouldn't left leaning folks like the idea of reducing paper, saving energy, and reducing cutting of forests? The point of the postal service was to ensure communication for our country when modern means did not exist. We have other ways of doing that without them now.

527 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:42:19pm

re: #473 Sharmuta

And there she is! Reine, Equable has assured me he'd contribute to a third book- are you up for it?

I'm available to do the same thing I've been doing.
The really tough parts are the ones Jaunte and FlakMusic are doing.
so . . .that's what will have to be worked out.

528 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:43:27pm

Friday Night Killer Blues - - ->

529 Toots McGee  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:43:43pm

Wasn't a fan of LGF in the early 2000's. Warmed up in the mid 2000's. LGF addict present day. I feel like my registration completes me. Thank you Charles for giving the sane a place to congregate!

530 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:43:59pm

re: #524 Angie

Welcome.

531 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:44:43pm

re: #523 celticdragon

Dante

Why are so many Christians so unlike Christ?

Gandhi said it best:

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians."
532 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:45:11pm

re: #510 _RememberTonyC

You know, they got the original line-up (sans the late Vince Welnick) together for a show a year or two ago.

533 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:45:38pm

re: #525 pre-Boomer Marine brat

FYI, HAL2010 is British, and serves on a merchant marine ship.

Ooo...which company? Is he one of the luckiest bastards on the ocean that gets to sail with Cunard?

534 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:46:17pm

re: #533 Dante41

Ooo...which company? Is he one of the luckiest bastards on the ocean that gets to sail with Cunard?

I don't know.

535 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:47:05pm

re: #532 bratwurst

You know, they got the original line-up (sans the late Vince Welnick) together for a show a year or two ago.

haven't been into the Tubes for awhile, but loved em back in the day!

536 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:47:06pm

re: #499 MandyManners

Direct Marketing
Print Media
Mail order companies
Ebay (some things are much less expensive to ship via USPS than UPS YMMV)


Not to be a nit-picking bitch but, Nos. 1 and 3 are part of the print media.

I was thinking of print media as in newspapers and magazines. Which if you want to quibble about it could be considered as being part of either of the other two for that matter. Having just went through a bout of headlice with my 8 year old I'd prefer not to discuss nit-picking, though. :)

537 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:47:18pm

re: #534 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't know.

Blast. I'll have to ask him in person.

..wait, is he ex-Royal Navy, or do you know?

538 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:47:38pm

re: #529 Toots McGee

Welcome.

539 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:47:58pm

re: #468 Charles

Guess us latecomers will have to take your word for it.

540 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:48:51pm

re: #537 Dante41

Blast. I'll have to ask him in person.

..wait, is he ex-Royal Navy, or do you know?

Don't know that either.
He's in and out.
IIRC, he was in earlier today.

541 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:49:01pm

Since when is Guilford "upscale?" Washington & Lee, maybe. But Guilford? Please.

Well, they sure try to price it that way, heh!

Point taken though. Substitute "Exceedingly Birkenstock pacifist Quaker liberal" for "upscale" and you will be about right. I get a kick out of it all the same :)

It's still a fairly pricey little school (I get a substantial break for being a CCE adult student), however it is the only one in the area offering my major.


My wife is a student there also, and she overheard one of her classmates relating that daddy had put 100 grand in her account to get her by for the semester.

I hope that was just exaggeration.

542 Digital Display  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:50:06pm

re: #512 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Would you believe that I once tried smoking corn silks?
In a pipe.
And I didn't let them dry out first.

/truth ... damn, I don't know how I survived!

Do you even realize when we were Vintage High school kids we partied in the Hills in Napa and Bitched about how bad Napa Valley Sucked?
I will admit..We were completely stupid on how dumb we were...
We were in Paradise and hated every second of our life...We raised 5 children in California...There is a certain love of California we imparted to our Children...

543 Toots McGee  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:50:35pm

re: #538 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks! Looking forward to contributing.

544 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:51:21pm

re: #540 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Don't know that either.
He's in and out.
IIRC, he was in earlier today.

I see. The reason I ask is because I've heard Cunard doesn't hire you for an officer's ticket unless you have served with the Royal Navy. And even then they have lots of people fighting over the chance to sail with them.

545 Surabaya Stew  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:51:59pm

re: #529 Toots McGee

Wasn't a fan of LGF in the early 2000's. Warmed up in the mid 2000's. LGF addict present day. I feel like my registration completes me. Thank you Charles for giving the sane a place to congregate!

Welcome aboard!

546 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:52:56pm

re: #511 Mich-again

the LPs are beautiful dogs! don't know about mine being 2X as smart, but I have two of them (BC mixes actually from the shelter). one thing for sure...together, they are smarter than I am. I am constantly being tag-teamed!

547 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:53:18pm

re: #542 HoosierHoops

Do you even realize when we were Vintage High school kids we partied in the Hills in Napa and Bitched about how bad Napa Valley Sucked?
I will admit..We were completely stupid on how dumb we were...
We were in Paradise and hated every second of our life...We raised 5 children in California...There is a certain love of California we imparted to our Children...

Perhaps shifting the subject a bit ... we think simple and boring sucks, until much later, when we begin appreciating, and yearning for, simple (and boring).

548 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:53:42pm

what do we think of david letterman's scandal? i think he is a piece of shit. guys who sleep with female employees are the nothing more than sexual predators ...

549 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:55:31pm

re: #548 _RememberTonyC

what do we think of david letterman's scandal? i think he is a piece of shit. guys who sleep with female employees are the nothing more than sexual predators ...

Quite Concur. Letterman is a jackass who deserves to be plagued by scandal.

550 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:56:16pm

re: #547 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Perhaps shifting the subject a bit ... we think simple and boring sucks, until much later, when we begin appreciating, and yearning for, simple (and boring).

"May you live in interesting times..."

551 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:56:19pm

So, maybe it's my limited knowledge of English, but I don't quite grasp what "Flounce" means.
I didn't find it in the LGF dictionary.
Is this a stupid question?

552 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:56:24pm

Hey, Cato the Elder, what's up with that?

I understand that you don't like the fact the Celtic cross has been appropriated by neo-Nazis, but why would you go back and down-ding my comments for pointing it out?

I'm not the enemy. The neo-Nazis who stole your beloved symbol are the enemy. Take it up with them.

553 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:56:53pm

re: #166 celticdragon

Years and years ago I worked in a very diverse bar, and my pool partner and good friend was a trans-gender woman. We had a blast together. I'm glad you feel like this is a good place to belong. And being as you're studying geology, that adds one more scientific mind to the pot. Nice to have you here.

554 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:56:57pm

re: #549 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur. Letterman is a jackass who deserves to be plagued by scandal.


i don't find him the least bit funny. he's smarmy, smug, and bitter. he and keith olbermann are two of a kind

555 Dan G.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:58:41pm

re: #551 mikhailtheplumber

To flounce is almost like setting off a suicide bomb. The flouncer knows he/she/it will be banned, but wants everyone to be splattered with his/her/its disdain for this site and/or its proprietor.

556 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:59:33pm

re: #526 BryanS

Direct Marketing--wouldn't mind if they went away. These SOBs account for most of my mail anyway--mail I don't want. They are about the only thing keeping the USPS afloat these days. That and the taxpayers.

Not to be rude, but not everyone feels the same way about direct marketing as you do. According to this article, direct mail still accounts for $50 billion dollars in US spending.


Print media-- going away fast...should just go online. It's cheaper than print. Why subsidize wasting all that paper/killing all those trees?

557 pizza  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:00:10pm

re: #541 celticdragon

My dad sent me a $100,000 bar my sophomore year. It was delicious.

Enjoy G-boro.

558 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:00:23pm

re: #535 _RememberTonyC

haven't been into the Tubes for awhile, but loved em back in the day!

Not a whole bunch of fun since the 70s, but the 4 A&M albums stand up remarkably well.

559 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:00:56pm

re: #555 Dan G.

To flounce is almost like setting off a suicide bomb. The flouncer knows he/she/it will be banned, but wants everyone to be splattered with his/her/its disdain for this site and/or its proprietor.

Somebody should buy them all VW Polos.

560 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:01:15pm

theheat


Thank you :)


Also, I'm with Mikhail up above with his question.
Flounce?

561 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:01:26pm

re: #550 Dante41

"May you live in interesting times..."

Humf!

Have you ever watched Yojimbo? (Kurosawa. Toshiro Mifune.)

It opens with a farmer's son running off, screaming back at his father, "a quick exciting life for me!"

At the end, Sanjuro (Mifune) spares the kid's life, telling him to go back home ... that the simple/boring life is best.

/mind you, it's not that there's anything transcendental about "boring"

562 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:01:48pm

re: #555 Dan G.

To flounce is almost like setting off a suicide bomb. The flouncer knows he/she/it will be banned, but wants everyone to be splattered with his/her/its disdain for this site and/or its proprietor.

So, some sort of verbal immolation in the name of Palin. Thanks for the heads up.

563 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:02:50pm

re: #551 mikhailtheplumber

So, maybe it's my limited knowledge of English, but I don't quite grasp what "Flounce" means.
I didn't find it in the LGF dictionary.
Is this a stupid question?

"flounce" is a relatively new term.

564 Dan G.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:03:51pm

re: #562 mikhailtheplumber

Palin, Beck, The Dishonesty Institute, Neo-Nazi Fascists...{insert kook here}

565 bratwurst  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:04:14pm

re: #526 BryanS


Print media-- going away fast...should just go online. It's cheaper than print. Why subsidize wasting all that paper/killing all those trees?

Maybe there will come a day when I feel comfortable tucking a Kindle or another device under my arm when heading to the john...but until that day, let me have my print edition of The Economist.

566 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:04:23pm

re: #552 Charles

Hey, Cato the Elder, what's up with that?

I understand that you don't like the fact the Celtic cross has been appropriated by neo-Nazis, but why would you go back and down-ding my comments for pointing it out?

I'm not the enemy. The neo-Nazis who stole your beloved symbol are the enemy. Take it up with them.

I downdinged one comment in which you flatly state that "The Celtic Cross is a neo-Nazi symbol."

That is at best a gross oversimplification of the real state of affairs. As I have been trying to point out.

If I were to change my avatar to this image with a statement that "this is an Irish Celtic cross from a Catholic cemetery and has nothing to do with fascism", would that be offensive?

567 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:04:35pm

To flounce is almost like setting off a suicide bomb. The flouncer knows he/she/it will be banned, but wants everyone to be splattered with his/her/its disdain for this site and/or its proprietor.


OIC.

Thanks ;)


@Pizza: Heh!

568 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:05:09pm

re: #556 PT Barnum

Curse my rusty HTML skills!


Print media-- going away fast...should just go on line. It's cheaper than print. Why subsidize wasting all that paper/killing all those trees?

Mail order companies/Ebay--can still deliver via UPS or Fed Ex.

The USPS is an outmoded, expensive, and unnecessary organization that has outlived its usefulness. It encourages the wasting of paper, energy, and taxes. Shouldn't left leaning folks like the idea of reducing paper, saving energy, and reducing cutting of forests? The point of the postal service was to ensure communication for our country when modern means did not exist. We have other ways of doing that without them now.

As long as people read in the bathroom, magazines will be printed on paper :)

In all fairness, I don't think you've proved your assertion by any means. You have certainly shown why you think the post office could be closed, but I don't think you can currently prove that closing the Post Office would have zero effect on the economy, thus it stands to reason that your assertion is an exaggeration.

569 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:05:45pm

out for the evening.
be back tomorrow.
Good Night, everyone!

570 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:06:27pm

re: #561 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Humf!

Have you ever watched Yojimbo? (Kurosawa. Toshiro Mifune.)

It opens with a farmer's son running off, screaming back at his father, "a quick exciting life for me!"

At the end, Sanjuro (Mifune) spares the kid's life, telling him to go back home ... that the simple/boring life is best.

/mind you, it's not that there's anything transcendental about "boring"

That's one of the reasons I like being a merchie. One time out, you could be on a Banana Boat milk run from Honduras to Galveston, another you could be making a container ship run to Rotterdam across the North Atlantic in winter. Could be boring or pant-shittingly scary.

571 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:06:59pm

re: #556 PT Barnum

You're not being rude. If the USPS goes away, or mail delivery is privatized, the written form of communication won't disappear. We'll just stop subsidizing the cost of direct mail to people when there are more economical ways for those marketers to get to their customers.

572 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:08:25pm

re: #565 bratwurst

Maybe there will come a day when I feel comfortable tucking a Kindle or another device under my arm when heading to the john...but until that day, let me have my print edition of The Economist.

You beat me to it..although I have to admit that my Blackberry gets a lot of use in that regard these days. Although hard to tear a few sheets out of a Blackberry in unfortunate circumstances though. :)

573 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:08:35pm

re: #565 bratwurst

Maybe there will come a day when I feel comfortable tucking a Kindle or another device under my arm when heading to the john...but until that day, let me have my print edition of The Economist.

Would it be ok to get it via UPS or Fed Ex--if they were legally allowed to deliver the classes of mail currently only allowed to be delivered by the USPS?

574 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:10:34pm

re: #555 Dan G.

I don't like that analogy. Its nothing like that at all.

575 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:11:49pm

re: #350 Charles

"Grand Rants" is the name of the blog that was being pimped by the now banned "Stoutcat."

576 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:12:10pm

re: #571 BryanS

I don't disagree with you neccesarily, but getting back to my original point, the government does a very good job at certain things until the private sector finds a way to do it better and cheaper. I don't disagree with that. I don't think we're at that point with the Post Office yet, but we are headed in that direction. I think it will be a while before that happens.

577 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:13:44pm

re: #568 PT Barnum

Curse my rusty HTML skills!

As long as people read in the bathroom, magazines will be printed on paper :)

In all fairness, I don't think you've proved your assertion by any means. You have certainly shown why you think the post office could be closed, but I don't think you can currently prove that closing the Post Office would have zero effect on the economy, thus it stands to reason that your assertion is an exaggeration.

I don't assume that nothing will replace it. I would likewise be ok with taking away their monopoly and allowing competition by the two private carriers.

We have two private companies that compete with each other for carrier business. Why not let them compete with the USPS, and completely take the USPS off the federal books?

578 Dan G.  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:14:02pm

re: #574 Mich-again

A terminal, membership-ending, gripe? You're free to construct your own explanation. I can see, now, how that might be a bit gauche, please, pardon me. I'm definitely not trying to make lite of the actual occurrence and the lives it ends/effects.

579 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:14:08pm

re: #575 wrenchwench

"Grand Rants" is the name of the blog that was being pimped by the now banned "Stoutcat."

You're good at this.

580 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:14:48pm

re: #575 wrenchwench

"Grand Rants" is the name of the blog that was being pimped by the now banned "Stoutcat."

Good Catch, WW. I'm updinging and recommending that one.

581 brennk2  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:15:01pm

re: #529 Toots McGee

Wasn't a fan of LGF in the early 2000's. Warmed up in the mid 2000's. LGF addict present day. I feel like my registration completes me. Thank you Charles for giving the sane a place to congregate!

It would be interesting to know what changed your perception of LGF for you over the years.

582 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:16:08pm

re: #556 PT Barnum

We don't need to get rid of the US Mail, but I could see it coming 3 days a week instead of 6.

583 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:16:15pm

@Cato The Elder:

(love the name, btw)

Celtic Cross jewelry has far less affiliation with white supremacy then Celtic Cross tatoos. I wear Celtic knot jewelry all the time. When I see the tatoo, that is a huge warning sign. I was shocked and saddened when a female coworker of mine in aviation had the Waffen SS symbology tatooed with Celtic knot work on her arm.

That really ended the friendship. I couldn't believe it and I didn't want to believe it. This seemingly nice young woman I was working with was also a white supremacist.

Another thing that really sets me off is when I see the Stars and Bars at Scottish Highland Games. Very sore point with me. Leave the "Silly War" stuff for the re-enactments. The Confederate flab has no business at a Scottish event, and I am profoundly embarrassed when I see people of color who have married into a Clan, wear the tarten and have to be confronted with Confederate nonsense.

Our rebellion was in 1745 and it ended (sadly) at Culloden. Fly those flags.

584 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:16:18pm

re: #576 PT Barnum

I don't disagree with you neccesarily, but getting back to my original point, the government does a very good job at certain things until the private sector finds a way to do it better and cheaper. I don't disagree with that. I don't think we're at that point with the Post Office yet, but we are headed in that direction. I think it will be a while before that happens.

Funny how a debate digresses into the weeds, eh?

Where do you draw the line on which things the government can do better? That's a general statement--just curious where you draw the line. I think the USPS has two companies that do compete with it, and if allowed to compete for the remaining business would drive costs down for that part of the business.

585 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:17:59pm

re: #582 Mich-again

We don't need to get rid of the US Mail, but I could see it coming 3 days a week instead of 6.

Of course they'd need a bailout to pay for the expensive retiree carrying costs. Now, where have I heard that before?

586 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:19:42pm

re: #560 celticdragon

The flounce is a virtual upskirt, heave-ho, giving of the finger, when people decide to leave / get kicked out / renounce their membership here. They usually write something unusually snotty, or try to be extra clever before they tell Charles and everyone here how unbearable it is. Some go into multiple dying swan paragraphs, and usually their punctuation and spelling falls apart at approximately the same rate they lose consciousness. It's kind of personal for each one, the flourish they decide to add to the experience. Some are hostile, some play victim, some draw it out as long as possible (tantric flouncing).

587 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:19:50pm

re: #577 BryanS

I'm not so sure that what wouldn't happen is that they would cherry pick all the profitable routes and then ignore the unprofitable routes. Then those of us in rural america would either pay through the nose for service or not get any service at all.

588 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:22:11pm

re: #583 celticdragon

@Cato The Elder:

(love the name, btw)

Celtic Cross jewelry has far less affiliation with white supremacy then Celtic Cross tatoos. I wear Celtic knot jewelry all the time. When I see the tatoo, that is a huge warning sign. I was shocked and saddened when a female coworker of mine in aviation had the Waffen SS symbology tatooed with Celtic knot work on her arm.

That really ended the friendship. I couldn't believe it and I didn't want to believe it. This seemingly nice young woman I was working with was also a white supremacist.

Another thing that really sets me off is when I see the Stars and Bars at Scottish Highland Games. Very sore point with me. Leave the "Silly War" stuff for the re-enactments. The Confederate flab has no business at a Scottish event, and I am profoundly embarrassed when I see people of color who have married into a Clan, wear the tarten and have to be confronted with Confederate nonsense.

Our rebellion was in 1745 and it ended (sadly) at Culloden. Fly those flags.

I think I'm goint to get Cafe Press to make me a T-shirt with a nice big Celtic cross on it and the words "I'm Catholic, not a racist Nazi - wanna make something of it?" Or something cleverer and more in-their-face when I think of it. The whole thing makes my blood boil.

And Charles, I would like permission to change my avatar as outlined above. Please let me know if that would be OK.

When bad people start to take over your symbols, fight back.

589 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:22:54pm

re: #548 _RememberTonyC

Ah, so quick to call it a "scandal"? There isn't enough info out there to really make such a judgment. When did the indiscretions occur? (Before or after he was married? in case that is what you are referring to, with "scandal.") How many female employees were involved? (we know it was plural, but that could mean 2 not necessarily 20, or 200.) As far as has been reported by the corporation, there have been no complaints filed against him for harassment.

I am enough of a cynic to wonder "why now?". Why not 2 years ago, or5 years ago. In fact, the person who was arrested for the extortion attempt is someone who just got dumped by his girlfriend a few weeks ago and it turns out she was one of the women involved with Letterman. Could it possibly be a bit of retaliation?

For me...I will withhold my final judgment until I know more. Until then, it really doesn't matter because I don't watch him on TV anyway.

590 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:23:40pm

re: #587 PT Barnum

I'm not so sure that what wouldn't happen is that they would cherry pick all the profitable routes and then ignore the unprofitable routes. Then those of us in rural america would either pay through the nose for service or not get any service at all.

Here's an area government can have a role--all or nothing by regulation. However rural America I think needs to deal with the fact that running rural route IS uneconomical, and they should accept delivery to more centralized locations to reduce costs.

591 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:23:59pm

re: #578 Dan G.

You're free to construct your own explanation.


Flouncers are like crickets. They chirp and then the lizard eats them.

592 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:24:32pm

re: #583 celticdragon

@Cato The Elder:

(love the name, btw)

Celtic Cross jewelry has far less affiliation with white supremacy then Celtic Cross tatoos. I wear Celtic knot jewelry all the time. When I see the tatoo, that is a huge warning sign. I was shocked and saddened when a female coworker of mine in aviation had the Waffen SS symbology tatooed with Celtic knot work on her arm.

That really ended the friendship. I couldn't believe it and I didn't want to believe it. This seemingly nice young woman I was working with was also a white supremacist.

Another thing that really sets me off is when I see the Stars and Bars at Scottish Highland Games. Very sore point with me. Leave the "Silly War" stuff for the re-enactments. The Confederate flab has no business at a Scottish event, and I am profoundly embarrassed when I see people of color who have married into a Clan, wear the tarten and have to be confronted with Confederate nonsense.

Our rebellion was in 1745 and it ended (sadly) at Culloden. Fly those flags.

That is frickin' sad. They are so lost in the past they forget which failed rebellion they are supposed to be partaking in.///

Also, writing up that email on the Alpha Legion as we speak. It should say "Johann", but the name is really Nate.

593 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:24:47pm

re: #588 Cato the Elder

I think I'm goint to get Cafe Press to make me a T-shirt with a nice big Celtic cross on it and the words "I'm Catholic, not a racist Nazi - wanna make something of it?" Or something cleverer and more in-their-face when I think of it. The whole thing makes my blood boil.

And Charles, I would like permission to change my avatar as outlined above. Please let me know if that would be OK.

When bad people start to take over your symbols, fight back.

You're fighting a losing battle I think.

594 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:24:56pm

re: #572 PT Barnum

I use...no, I mean I "take with me" a good book of Sudoku! Serves both purposes!

//

595 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:26:43pm

re: #588 Cato the Elder

I think I'm goint to get Cafe Press to make me a T-shirt with a nice big Celtic cross on it and the words "I'm Catholic, not a racist Nazi - wanna make something of it?" Or something cleverer and more in-their-face when I think of it. The whole thing makes my blood boil.

And Charles, I would like permission to change my avatar as outlined above. Please let me know if that would be OK.

When bad people start to take over your symbols, fight back.

You don't need my permission to do that, but you may be in for a world of crap from people who misinterpret your meaning. Because like it or not, the symbol has become associated with neo-Nazis both in the US and overseas.

596 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:27:46pm

re: #593 BryanS

You're fighting a losing battle I think.

Wouldn't be the first time. If you think I'm going to let some knuckle-dragging scum from the genetic cesspools of Europe redefine my symbols for me without a fight, you don't know me.

I do believe Irish Catholicism and the Church in general carries a bit more weight than these troglodytes.

597 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:28:29pm

re: #584 BryanS

I already responded to this in 587, but I think the guiding principal needs to be perhaps allowing the other services to compete, but requiring them to provide the same level of service. Otherwise you run the risk of them cherry picking business from the government entity.

UPS already does this by offering UPS Basic (Fed Ex has a program called Smart Post). They basically deliver the package to the destination city then drop it off for the USPS to deliver. This is mostly being done to offset the price advantage the USPS has in packages under 5 pounds.

598 Mr.Boots  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:28:32pm

Hi,
Long time lurker, finally got to register after many tries.
Quick bio(for those who care):
Retired English, Special Ed. teacher and part-time administrator.
Voracious reader: There is plenty of great reading here.
Screen name: I use it everywhere. It was given to me by a student when I was an Assistant Principal and it stuck.
Answer to: "Mike" or "Boots." Sometimes to "Michael, you asshole."
Married: 33 years. Wife is an educational consultant for SIM professional development. 22yo daughter finishing grad work for MSW.
Hobbies: I tend to collect things (packrat).
Favorite things: My koi pond here on Long Island, political discussion, driving my 1983 Fiat Spider, walking the beaches of Naples, Florida a few blocks from our condo.

Enough now, I'm even boring myself.

599 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:29:25pm

re: #598 Mr.Boots

Hi,
Long time lurker, finally got to register after many tries.
Quick bio(for those who care):
Retired English, Special Ed. teacher and part-time administrator.
Voracious reader: There is plenty of great reading here.
Screen name: I use it everywhere. It was given to me by a student when I was an Assistant Principal and it stuck.
Answer to: "Mike" or "Boots." Sometimes to "Michael, you asshole."
Married: 33 years. Wife is an educational consultant for SIM professional development. 22yo daughter finishing grad work for MSW.
Hobbies: I tend to collect things (packrat).
Favorite things: My koi pond here on Long Island, political discussion, driving my 1983 Fiat Spider, walking the beaches of Naples, Florida a few blocks from our condo.

Enough now, I'm even boring myself.

Hello, friend. Welcome to the Lizard Army.

600 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:29:50pm

re: #595 Charles

You don't need my permission to do that, but you may be in for a world of crap from people who misinterpret your meaning. Because like it or not, the symbol has become associated with neo-Nazis both in the US and overseas.

Well, I won't do it here because you get enough horseshit from morons with reading comprehension problems, and I don't want to add to their fun.

This battle will have to be fought elsewhere.

Thanks for listening...

601 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:30:38pm

re: #552 Charles

The Tea Party crowd stole the Gadsden Flag. I used to like that but I wouldn't fly one now.

602 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:31:51pm

re: #595 Charles

You don't need my permission to do that, but you may be in for a world of crap from people who misinterpret your meaning. Because like it or not, the symbol has become associated with neo-Nazis both in the US and overseas.

I don't know, Charles. Before tonight, I just thought "Ireland" when I saw the Celtic Cross. Or maybe "Wiccan". "Neo-Nazi Scum" never crossed my mind.

603 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:33:31pm

re: #602 Dante41

I don't know, Charles. Before tonight, I just thought "Ireland" when I saw the Celtic Cross. Or maybe "Wiccan". "Neo-Nazi Scum" never crossed my mind.

Then you've been leading a sheltered life.

Google it.

604 Mr. Crankypants  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:35:00pm

re: #590 BryanS

Here's an area government can have a role--all or nothing by regulation. However rural America I think needs to deal with the fact that running rural route IS uneconomical, and they should accept delivery to more centralized locations to reduce costs.

Would you feel that way if you had to drive 30 or 60 miles to get your mail?

605 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:35:25pm

re: #597 PT Barnum

I already responded to this in 587, but I think the guiding principal needs to be perhaps allowing the other services to compete, but requiring them to provide the same level of service. Otherwise you run the risk of them cherry picking business from the government entity.

UPS already does this by offering UPS Basic (Fed Ex has a program called Smart Post). They basically deliver the package to the destination city then drop it off for the USPS to deliver. This is mostly being done to offset the price advantage the USPS has in packages under 5 pounds.

Agreed on the principle of fair competition.

Tell me, what do you think about the left's argument that health care run by the government is necessary to provide insurance companies "competition"?

I think it's hooey for a few basic reasons:
1. they could increase competition by allowing interstate commerce for health insurance.
2. without #1, the government will be the largest insurer in the country by virtue of having a service run in all 50 states instead of only just one. In such a scenario, private companies could never compete and the government could set prices.
3. even without #1, government has the power to regulate, and through the threat of regulation, would have effective control over the market.

606 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:35:29pm

re: #603 Charles

Then you've been leading a sheltered life.

Google it.

I don't doubt it. There seems to be no end to religious symbols these pieces of garbage won't bastardize.

607 Mr.Boots  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:35:55pm

re: #599 Dark_Falcon
Cool. I have an affinity for lizards.
Maybe that's why I was meant to finally be here.

608 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:37:47pm

re: #604 PT Barnum

Would you feel that way if you had to drive 30 or 60 miles to get your mail?

I assume there are general stores that even the most rural residence has to visit once in a while at the town or county center that would be the logical place to keep PO boxes for residences in the mail district. Yes, I think that's fair.

609 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:38:42pm

re: #602 Dante41

I don't know, Charles. Before tonight, I just thought "Ireland" when I saw the Celtic Cross. Or maybe "Wiccan". "Neo-Nazi Scum" never crossed my mind.

Symbols are notoriously easier to co-opt and ruin than to establish. The Nazis were particularly good with that. Not just the swastika. The Iron Cross has become another Nazi symbol, and yet it existed as a medal for courage in the German military before Hitler's time (and, sadly, he was given one in WWI). It was first established in 1813, apparently.

Once a symbol or a name has been ruined, there's usually no reclaiming it. Consider "skinheads": the original groups were anti-fascist gangs, but nowadays most people will immediately associate "skinhead" with Neo-nazi morons.

610 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:40:08pm

Also, writing up that email on the Alpha Legion as we speak. It should say "Johann", but the name is really Nate.

Cool! :)

I can send you some of the background I did for our last Apocalypse Game I hosted at my home (22 gamers was a bit much...)


***8

A Report on Fryginia Secundus for His Excellency, Inquisitor Lord
Francis Grenel
Prepared by Jenel Felistran, Explicator, Ordo Malleus
Thought for the day: No one is truly innocent. There are only varying degrees of guilt.
Fryginia Secundus
Orb. Distance: 1.34 AU
0.93 G/Temp 12 degrees C
Civilized world
Tithe Grade: Decuma Prima
Aestmare: A350
Population: 13,000,000,000

Abstract and Overview

Fryginia Secundus constitutes one half of a binary planet designation in the Fryginia System. Fryginia Primus and Fryginia Secundus are roughly equal in mass and diameter, and orbit each other over a period of approximately 22 Terran Standard days. Fryginia Primus is an industrialized world, and constitutes the main trade partner of, and food recipient from, Fryginia Secundus. There are a total of 8 major planets in the system, five of which are inhabited to some degree for mining, industry or military purposes apart from the Fryginia subset.

611 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:40:51pm

@Cato -

Here is a good LGF entry on the Eurofascists' Symbols.

(And Stacy McCain - yeah, I know you read these comments - you should read the same post and you'd realize what an ass you are to liken yourself to a "linchpin" of the "Flemish Menace").

612 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:43:15pm

re: #610 celticdragon

Also, writing up that email on the Alpha Legion as we speak. It should say "Johann", but the name is really Nate.

Cool! :)

I can send you some of the background I did for our last Apocalypse Game I hosted at my home (22 gamers was a bit much...)

***8

A Report on Fryginia Secundus for His Excellency, Inquisitor Lord
Francis Grenel
Prepared by Jenel Felistran, Explicator, Ordo Malleus
Thought for the day: No one is truly innocent. There are only varying degrees of guilt.
Fryginia Secundus
Orb. Distance: 1.34 AU
0.93 G/Temp 12 degrees C
Civilized world
Tithe Grade: Decuma Prima
Aestmare: A350
Population: 13,000,000,000

Abstract and Overview

Fryginia Secundus constitutes one half of a binary planet designation in the Fryginia System. Fryginia Primus and Fryginia Secundus are roughly equal in mass and diameter, and orbit each other over a period of approximately 22 Terran Standard days. Fryginia Primus is an industrialized world, and constitutes the main trade partner of, and food recipient from, Fryginia Secundus. There are a total of 8 major planets in the system, five of which are inhabited to some degree for mining, industry or military purposes apart from the Fryginia subset.

22 players?! In an APOCOLYPSE game?! That must been Hell to manage, but epic beyond all description to behold.

613 UP Border Collie  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:44:56pm

time for me to say, goodnight!

614 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:46:11pm

Dante

I don't doubt it. There seems to be no end to religious symbols these pieces of garbage won't bastardize.

I agree. I am in general agreement with Cato since the Celtic knot is an important part of Celtic religious expression and mysticism (check out the Book of Kells!). I do not want to cede part of my cultural heritage to the brownshirts.

615 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:46:26pm

re: #609 mikhailtheplumber

Symbols are notoriously easier to co-opt and ruin than to establish. The Nazis were particularly good with that. Not just the swastika. The Iron Cross has become another Nazi symbol, and yet it existed as a medal for courage in the German military before Hitler's time (and, sadly, he was given one in WWI). It was first established in 1813, apparently.

Once a symbol or a name has been ruined, there's usually no reclaiming it. Consider "skinheads": the original groups were anti-fascist gangs, but nowadays most people will immediately associate "skinhead" with Neo-nazi morons.

Interestingly, the decision by Angela Merkel to engage the Taliban has brought the Iron Cross back into use as a combat decoration. While currently known as the Cross of Heroism, it is essentially the same Iron Cross First Class.

616 JRCMYP  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:47:20pm

re: #378 John Neverbend

Since I studied medieval history too, it all sort of overlaps, but basically the early modern period is around 1450 or so to 1750 or so. The dates are less relevant than the major movements that happened (i.e. Renaissance in the beginning and the beginning of the modern nation-states toward the end of the period).

617 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:48:17pm

re: #612 Dante41

22 players?! In an APOCOLYPSE game?! That must been Hell to manage, but epic beyond all description to behold.

I'm playing in a 19 player Battletech game in Milwaukee tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how that is run on Sunday night.

618 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:50:02pm

re: #614 celticdragon

Dante

I don't doubt it. There seems to be no end to religious symbols these pieces of garbage won't bastardize.

I agree. I am in general agreement with Cato since the Celtic knot is an important part of Celtic religious expression and mysticism (check out the Book of Kells!). I do not want to cede part of my cultural heritage to the brownshirts.

You can use the "quote" and "reply" functions on a person's comment box.
If you want to "quote" Dante and write your response after quoting him, use "quote". If you want to respond without quoting his post, use "reply".
And either way, there will be a link back to the person's post so that whoever wants to track back the conversation can do so easily.

619 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:51:08pm

re: #611 karmic_inquisitor

@Cato -

Here is a good LGF entry on the Eurofascists' Symbols.

(And Stacy McCain - yeah, I know you read these comments - you should read the same post and you'd realize what an ass you are to liken yourself to a "linchpin" of the "Flemish Menace").

Øyvind Strømmen has moved his content on eurofascism and it can now be found at Eurofascism.info. The broken links to his work can be salvaged by appending the part of the url after the domain to the new domain.

So here is the referenced article Stormfronters and Symbols

620 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:54:06pm

22 players?! In an APOCOLYPSE game?! That must been Hell to manage, but epic beyond all description to behold.

All in my formal living room and dining room...some of them needed a shower :)


***GAME GEEK ALERT!!***
It was a blast to see a dozen super heavies slugging it out...not to mention a full upgrade Ordo Malleus Inquisitor and some Sisters Repentia eviscerate a Bloodthister of Khorne in one close combat fight. I had a Warhound Titan laying waste on my end of the battle. I can post pix of that, if you like...

621 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:56:41pm

re: #620 celticdragon

22 players?! In an APOCOLYPSE game?! That must been Hell to manage, but epic beyond all description to behold.

All in my formal living room and dining room...some of them needed a shower :)

***GAME GEEK ALERT!!***
It was a blast to see a dozen super heavies slugging it out...not to mention a full upgrade Ordo Malleus Inquisitor and some Sisters Repentia eviscerate a Bloodthister of Khorne in one close combat fight. I had a Warhound Titan laying waste on my end of the battle. I can post pix of that, if you like...

In the name of the God Emperor of Mankind, I order you to do so! :-)

622 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 8:58:11pm

re: #617 Dark_Falcon

I'm playing in a 19 player Battletech game in Milwaukee tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how that is run on Sunday night.

Watch out for Madcats...

623 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:02:02pm

re: #619 karmic_inquisitor

Øyvind Strømmen has moved his content on eurofascism and it can now be found at Eurofascism.info. The broken links to his work can be salvaged by appending the part of the url after the domain to the new domain.

So here is the referenced article Stormfronters and Symbols

Here's a link to a pdf of Neo Nazi symbols that are illegal in Germany, I keep up at my site for reference, near the tag end you see the Celtic Cross

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

624 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:03:10pm

re: #603 Charles

The euro-Fs try to wreck the meaning of a
Very beautiful thing.

Go away, Bozos.

I would like one of these over my grave, you cannot have it.

625 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:06:40pm

re: #623 Thanos

Here's a link to a pdf of Neo Nazi symbols that are illegal in Germany, I keep up at my site for reference, near the tag end you see the Celtic Cross

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

They banned the Imperial Flag? And the Reichsmarine flag? Didn't know that.

626 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:08:23pm

re: #621 Dante41

In the name of the God Emperor of Mankind, I order you to do so! :-)

Revered Sir:

Vox logs and data pix of the engagement at Oltsdorff, Fryginia Secundus will be transmitted via astropath relay at your convenience. The glorious Tallarn 23 Amoured Cavalry Regiment was victorious, and the mutant/traitor uprising shattered by Adeptus Astartes and Collegio Titanicus counter strikes. You will be gratified to know that Ahriman was forced off world and has been frustrated in his designs. Pursuit of the Traitor Legions continues at this hour.

For The Emperor:

Jenel Felistran
Explicator, Ordo Malleus

627 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:11:03pm

re: #622 celticdragon

Watch out for Madcats...

I love those things when I get to run them. I almost certainly won't get the chance on the first day, but I might on the second. That day is a city fight, but the Timber Wolf (Mad Cat) has a configuration for that.

628 Dreader1962  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:14:56pm

re: #624 Ojoe

The euro-Fs try to wreck the meaning of a
Very beautiful thing.

Go away, Bozos.

I would like one of these over my grave, you cannot have it.

As a matter of fact, a couple years ago I buried my little sister's cremains with my father in a box with this symbol. It's the first thing that occurred to me when I read Charles' concern about the 'celticdragon' Lizard name.

629 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:15:22pm

re: #623 Thanos

Here's a link to a pdf of Neo Nazi symbols that are illegal in Germany, I keep up at my site for reference, near the tag end you see the Celtic Cross

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

Thanos,

Thank you. That is not a Celtic cross as I define it. It is an Odin's cross, and I recognize it for the fascist/Nazi symbol it has become. This is a Celtic cross. I'm glad to see Germany hasn't banned it, though since the publication you link to is from 2006, that may have changed.

If the distinction between Celtic and Odin's could be maintained in these discussions, we might be better able to sort it all out.

630 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:15:47pm

re: #627 Dark_Falcon

I love those things when I get to run them. I almost certainly won't get the chance on the first day, but I might on the second. That day is a city fight, but the Timber Wolf (Mad Cat) has a configuration for that.

Cool! I want pix if you get any!

631 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:16:54pm

re: #630 celticdragon

Cool! I want pix if you get any!

I'll get some. Enable the safe mail feature when I get back and I'll send them to you.

632 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:18:28pm

re: #624 Ojoe

The euro-Fs try to wreck the meaning of a
Very beautiful thing.

Go away, Bozos.

I would like one of these over my grave, you cannot have it.

Agreed.

633 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:18:38pm

re: #625 Dante41

They banned the Imperial Flag? And the Reichsmarine flag? Didn't know that.

Not everything in the PDF is banned, some are there as examples of what the Neo Nazis have shifted to since other symbols were banned. If it doesn't have the squiggly "S" thing across it, then it's not actually banned.

634 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:21:13pm

re: #626 celticdragon

[..] For The Emperor:

Jenel Felistran
Explicator, Ordo Malleus

Not to be a pedantic prick, Celticdragon - thought that is part of my job description around here - but if you want to be correct about the Order of the Hammer, its Latin name would be Ordo Mallei. Malleus being the nominative singular form, you see.

Pro Imperatore,

Cato Maior

635 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:25:08pm

re: #626 celticdragon

Revered Sir:

Vox logs and data pix of the engagement at Oltsdorff, Fryginia Secundus will be transmitted via astropath relay at your convenience. The glorious Tallarn 23 Amoured Cavalry Regiment was victorious, and the mutant/traitor uprising shattered by Adeptus Astartes and Collegio Titanicus counter strikes. You will be gratified to know that Ahriman was forced off world and has been frustrated in his designs. Pursuit of the Traitor Legions continues at this hour.

For The Emperor:

Jenel Felistran
Explicator, Ordo Malleus

Revered Sister,
Transmit upon reciept of intelligence report on the suspected activities of the Traitor Alpha Legion.

For the Emperor:
Admiral Dante Alighieri XXXI
Subfleet Lambda Pi XIII

636 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:26:33pm

re: #634 Cato the Elder

Not to be a pedantic prick, Celticdragon - thought that is part of my job description around here - but if you want to be correct about the Order of the Hammer, its Latin name would be Ordo Mallei. Malleus being the nominative singular form, you see.

Pro Imperatore,

Cato Maior

LOL! The nominative singular form is what is used in the game universe, so that is what we are stuck with. I think the incorrect Latin grammar has been pointed out before, but you can always say that Latin isn't quite the same 40, 000 years from now ;)

637 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:27:01pm

re: #629 Cato the Elder

Thanos,

Thank you. That is not a Celtic cross as I define it. It is an Odin's cross, and I recognize it for the fascist/Nazi symbol it has become. This is a Celtic cross. I'm glad to see Germany hasn't banned it, though since the publication you link to is from 2006, that may have changed.

If the distinction between Celtic and Odin's could be maintained in these discussions, we might be better able to sort it all out.

I'm quite aware of the difference between Celtic Cross as they appear on graves, Odin's cross, high cross and berkenkruis. I did a lot of research on it back in the day. Odin's cross typically doesn't have arms extended past the circle. ADL disagrees with you.
[Link: www.adl.org...]

Typical, true Celtic Crosses such as you see on graves have tips wider than the section that crosses in the middle, and typically has ornate celtic knots all over the arms.
A search on images will show you some true Celtic crosses, and the type that Stormfront prefers. If you want to be a purist then the Stormfront logo is a stylized celtic cross. Real Odin's crosses don't have arms crossing past the bound of the circle. We went through this argument in detail several times back when we were drubbing VB, Gates of Vienna.
Indeed, I challenged Baron to wear one one of the Stormfront Celtic cross logos on a tee shirt to church during that period, he never took me up on it.

638 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:30:47pm

re: #633 Thanos

Not everything in the PDF is banned, some are there as examples of what the Neo Nazis have shifted to since other symbols were banned. If it doesn't have the squiggly "S" thing across it, then it's not actually banned.

Point of interest: The squiggly thing is the German Paragraphenzeichen or "paragraph sign", signifying a paragraph (law) in a legal code. So the images thus marked fall under the law being discussed. In English it's called a section sign.

639 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:30:59pm

Gotta run, so good night and I will get those pix emailed to Dante this weekend. :)

Thanks again to everybody!

640 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:32:09pm

re: #639 celticdragon

Gotta run, so good night and I will get those pix emailed to Dante this weekend. :)

Thanks again to everybody!

Goodnight, CD. Good to make your acquaintance and I'll remember those pics for you.

641 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:34:36pm

re: #633 Thanos

Ah. Well, I believe that both of the two remaining German Monarchists were not very happy about that. :-)

642 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:35:42pm

re: #637 Thanos

Sigh.

The ADL can disagree with me all they want. I will not retrain myself to think of a Celtic cross as a fascist hate symbol just because people can't see obvious distinctions, or because they buy into the misuse and misidentification of something by evil scumbags.

And that's it for me tonight.

Sleep well.

643 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:42:18pm

re: #638 Cato the Elder

Point of interest: The squiggly thing is the German Paragraphenzeichen or "paragraph sign", signifying a paragraph (law) in a legal code. So the images thus marked fall under the law being discussed. In English it's called a section sign.

Thanks, I did not know that.

644 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:45:31pm

re: #641 Dante41

Ah. Well, I believe that both of the two remaining German Monarchists were not very happy about that. :-)

It might surprise you to find out that many of the Euro Fascists descend from monarchists, royalists, and nobility. These tribal supremacist nationalists started way back when Napoleon wrecked the continent twice.

645 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:46:47pm

re: #642 Cato the Elder

Sigh.

The ADL can disagree with me all they want. I will not retrain myself to think of a Celtic cross as a fascist hate symbol just because people can't see obvious distinctions, or because they buy into the misuse and misidentification of something by evil scumbags.

And that's it for me tonight.

Sleep well.

I understand your frustration, if wear it you must pick one with arms thinner where it crosses, the wide base, and celtic knots. That way nobody can argue much.

646 Dante41  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:51:32pm

re: #644 Thanos

It does, actually. In retrospect, it shouldn't.

Although, I meant the few remaining Germans who want to see the return of the Kaiser. The ones who still haven't gotten over Versailles(not to say that it wasn't a POS revenge wank treaty). I think I read somewhere that Wilhelm did not like Hitler, or the direction he took Germany.

647 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:52:39pm

re: #526 BryanS

The USPS is an outmoded, expensive, and unnecessary organization that has outlived its usefulness.

This is exactly what my Father said to me 10 years ago when he retired from the USPS with a full pension and bennies for the rest of his life. /

648 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:56:08pm

re: #645 Thanos

I understand your frustration, if wear it you must pick one with arms thinner where it crosses, the wide base, and celtic knots. That way nobody can argue much.

If by "wide base" you mean the lower extremity being longer than the other three, then yes. That is for me one of the defining characteristics of the Celtic cross. I see the ones with equal protrusions all round as being something else. This is what I wear, and have done for years. You can see that the top protrudes higher than the sides, as well.

This is what I have always thought of as a Celtic cross. Perhaps the distinction is between the Christian Celtic cross and the pagan (whether pre-Christian or contemporary pagan) version. No matter. If I were a pagan I'd be just as pissed at the Nazis for stealing my symbol.

But you can see why I don't think anyone could confuse what I wear with a Nazi token.

649 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:57:04pm

re: #648 Cato the Elder

I've got no beef with that one.

650 Mr Furious  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 10:42:59pm

Hello everyone,

Over the years I've dropped by here on rare occasion to get a read on the opposition...

Recently I followed a link (Sullivan, I think?) mentioning Charles' shift and included a good CJ quote. I even composed a blogpost in my head about it, but since I couldn't get in to comment here I decided to shelve it.

I've been back a few times since and what's happening here is very reminiscent of John Cole, circa-Terry Schiavo. I was a regular commenter at Balloon Juice well before then, but that enlightenment period for him was must-see tv. Watching John get to the point he is at now, since then, has been quite a ride.

When a commenter at Balloon Juice (fellow hatchling Gen Stuck) noted that the registration door was open, I jumped.

I'm not an I-told-you-so kind of guy, and I'm not here to gloat. If anything I'm here to see who walks out of the smoke on the right, and welcome them back to civilization—things work better for everyone with honest brokers on all sides.

I don't expect to agree with many of you on matters other than acknowledging right-wing fringe FAIL, as I am a pretty obstinate liberal, but I always up for a good debate/argument.

Cheers,
Mr Furious

651 jvic  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:43:18pm

re: #328 Naso Tang

You link to a Wiki article that reads like something written by Falun Gong.

The smell in the whole thing, (never mind the philosophical mishmash) is that there is a godlike leader with questionable background who lives in seclusion in the USA, as a multi millionaire. Anybody sense suckers in the there somewhere?

Sorry I missed your response when you posted it. Hopefully you'll come across this belated reply.

Back when China's persecution of it was news, I clicked around regarding Falun Gong. On the surface it looked wholesome, but ultimately I was left uneasy. After ten years or so, I can't be specific, but your impression is consistent with mine.

652 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Sat, Oct 3, 2009 1:15:33am

re: #397 Killgore Trout

As a Portlander, I'm a big fan of Hip Chicks Do Wine: Your text to link...

I'm way more a beer guy than a wine guy, but their Rose is like heroin, it's so good.

653 Hawaii69  Sat, Oct 3, 2009 3:31:08am

re: #526 BryanS

Direct Marketing--wouldn't mind if they went away. These SOBs account for most of my mail anyway--mail I don't want. They are about the only thing keeping the USPS afloat these days. That and the taxpayers.

Print media-- going away fast...should just go online. It's cheaper than print. Why subsidize wasting all that paper/killing all those trees?

Mail order companies/Ebay--can still deliver via UPS or Fed Ex.

The USPS is an outmoded, expensive, and unnecessary organization that has outlived its usefulness. It encourages the wasting of paper, energy, and taxes. Shouldn't left leaning folks like the idea of reducing paper, saving energy, and reducing cutting of forests? The point of the postal service was to ensure communication for our country when modern means did not exist. We have other ways of doing that without them now.


Yeah, and if you live in Hawaii, Fed-Ex and UPS will be kind enough to offer you 2nd Day Air (which takes 3) as the cheapest option when you order something from the mainland. The smallest item will cost me $24.00 through them.

The USPS will only charge me a few bucks for Pritority Mail.


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